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Re:Sick of Ruby, dynamic typing, side effects, and object-or... by charlieflowers on Tuesday November 07, 2017 @09:24AM (#15643566)
That's right. Even pre-mvc, Java had Java Server Pages in 1999, which was much better than "<table>...sql here".

However, Rails is what really launched the "MVC renaissance." Because of it, soon Java, C# and many other languages moved to predominantly MVC cultures.

Re:Sick of Ruby, dynamic typing, side effects, and object-or... by revscat on Tuesday November 07, 2017 @10:35AM (#15644204)
Rails was a (positive) reaction to Struts. Struts was an MVC framework, but clunky and difficult to manage. ActiveRecord in particular took many lessons from what Struts did wrong, and fixed it.