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Re:You Will Lose Your Job to a Robot and Sooner Than You Think by adventured on Monday November 06, 2017 @09:25AM (#15635619)
The US has a vast inbound labor shortage problem. AI + robotics are not going to solve that problem over the next 20 years.

US population growth has continued to erode toward barely expanding, and that's with immigration included. That decline is going to get worse by the decade, while simultaneously boomers continue to plunge out of the labor force over the next decade.

The US economy added between $4.5 and $5 trillion to its GDP in the last decade (an economy the size of Japan). That's while only adding ~23 million people. It's going to become increasingly difficult to replicate that growth without dramatic productivity gains. AI and robotics, automation broadly, are likely the only means to accomplish that.

Simply put, we're going to need dramatic productivity gains just to repeat the growth from the past ten years, and that growth wasn't spectacular. Want routine 3% to 4% GDP growth against sub 1% population growth? Better bring on the automation, and as much of it as possible.

Re:You Will Lose Your Job to a Robot and Sooner Than You Think by ryandrake on Monday November 06, 2017 @10:07AM (#15635941)
Who's "we" and why should they care about GDP growth? Surely not normal people. I don't care about GDP growth. "GDP growth" means someone already rich is getting richer. Why should normal people care about productivity gains? To most of us, "productivity gains" means my company can lay me off now because Sally can do the work of both of us. Where is this labor shortage? You say labor shortage, I say companies refusing to pay enough for labor, then complaining they can't find workers.
Re:You Will Lose Your Job to a Robot and Sooner Than You Think by mac01021 on Monday November 06, 2017 @10:34AM (#15636167)
> I say companies refusing to pay enough for labor, then complaining they can't find workers.

They'll pay any amount for labor up to the point where the cost of the labor outweighs the additional profit for the company that the labor will induce.

Re:You Will Lose Your Job to a Robot and Sooner Than You Think by ryandrake on Monday November 06, 2017 @11:03AM (#15636373)
In other words, there is exactly enough labor, given labor cost and profit. So where is the ‘shortage?’
Re:You Will Lose Your Job to a Robot and Sooner Than You Think by ForHackernews on Monday November 06, 2017 @09:45AM (#15635769)
I think most people don't actually want "growth", they just want a good quality of life for themselves and their family.

Unfortunately, most of our economic assumptions are predicated on the notion that an economy that isn't growing must be stagnating. There hasn't been much work on how to sustain prosperity without growth, i.e. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steady-state_economy

Re:You Will Lose Your Job to a Robot and Sooner Than You Think by ashark on Monday November 06, 2017 @09:54AM (#15635839)
> US population growth has continued to erode toward barely expanding, and that's with immigration included. That decline is going to get worse by the decade, while simultaneously boomers continue to plunge out of the labor force over the next decade.

Universal health care might help. Having a kid is gonna be a really, really bad idea financially-speaking regardless, but the risk of their having even a middlingly-bad chronic health problem and ruining your finances for life (on top of the ordinary time lost and stress caused by such misfortune) make having a kid like playing Russian roulette with your bank account, credit, and retirement.

Re:You Will Lose Your Job to a Robot and Sooner Than You Think by jcadam on Monday November 06, 2017 @09:58AM (#15635866)
Japan and especially Europe are even worse off than us (at least we're reproducing near replacement-level), and China has a looming demographic problem due to the lasting impacts of their one-child policy (recently softened (though too late), so I hear).