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Re:The end of the cloud is coming by arca_vorago on Monday November 06, 2017 @03:55AM (#15634164)
It's not that bad, I promise. If one really takes the time to examine the reasoning given for the hate, one might find those reasons wanting.

Have you had to deal with it directly yourself and found something wrong?

Re:The end of the cloud is coming by jfoutz on Monday November 06, 2017 @10:19AM (#15636026)
how do you cope with something like gossip in consul when you have a

    host <-> nat <-> internet <-> nat <-> host 
setup?

the last time i tried, gossip would send a udp packet from something other than port 8302, so left to right would work ok, but nat would assume some state there, and treat right to left as a reply, rather than fresh connection, and stuff would get lost.

Although, it has been a couple of years and i'm probably misremembering the details.

I do remember it being hard to debug.