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Re:28-year-old makes millions buying from Walmart, selling o... by wpietri on Sunday November 05, 2017 @02:59PM (#15631246)
Good for him, but I really wish for a better class of business journalism. He's been doing this 4 years, and never made more than $150k/year. So he definitely isn't somebody who "makes millions".
Re:28-year-old makes millions buying from Walmart, selling o... by forkLding on Sunday November 05, 2017 @03:49PM (#15631469)
The article might be exaggerating but it did state that he had 'millions in profits' at first paragraph.

Salary is a different matter, CEOs of new companies dont earn from annual revenue but more from stock sales and gains.

Paying 150k is also before taxing and profits and is an expense in wages.

Taking a quick guess and say that this person has 1 million in profits, but most likely 1 million to 2 million in gross profits instead of net from what I can think is more likely and 150k in his salary as well as wages for 11 people and warehouse rent which likely reaches 700k to 1 million, he likely has around 3 to 3.5 million in revenue and net profits of likely 50k as thats your average web retailer net margin

Re:28-year-old makes millions buying from Walmart, selling o... by dcosson on Sunday November 05, 2017 @04:59PM (#15631904)
So "28-year-old runs a small business that makes millions selling on amazon" would be more accurate than the actual title. But they probably get more clicks phrasing it more like a pyramid scheme ad ("Make 6 figures from home selling ____!")
Re:28-year-old makes millions buying from Walmart, selling o... by tyingq on Sunday November 05, 2017 @04:06PM (#15631556)
He also says he's doing $200k/month in one spot, then $8M/year in another. Smells funny.
Re:28-year-old makes millions buying from Walmart, selling o... by giarc on Sunday November 05, 2017 @04:49PM (#15631843)
They are currently doing $200k in sales but "Since he started selling on Amazon, Grant says the business is on track to top $8 million in total sales by the end of this year."

$8 million is sales since starting.

Re:28-year-old makes millions buying from Walmart, selling o... by tyingq on Sunday November 05, 2017 @04:52PM (#15631866)
The math still doesn't work. He's been at it 4 years, and he notes that it wasn't huge the first year.
Re:28-year-old makes millions buying from Walmart, selling o... by giarc on Sunday November 05, 2017 @04:53PM (#15631877)
He's doing $200k in sales per month now.... Black Friday and Christmas are just around the corner and are probably 80% of their business (just my guess). Either way retail sales are not linear.
Re:28-year-old makes millions buying from Walmart, selling o... by chiefalchemist on Sunday November 05, 2017 @04:15PM (#15631614)
Revenue is revenue. Profits are profits. In this case, I'm guessing, it was revenue over $1m.
Re:28-year-old makes millions buying from Walmart, selling o... by rubyfan on Sunday November 05, 2017 @04:53PM (#15631875)
His high salary was $150k. You can still make millions without taking it out in the form of a salary. If he owns the company and the value of his equity increases into the millions, then he’s making millions. It sounded like he was reinvesting the money back into the business too. It’s probably a smarter use of profits if he has predictable margins that scale.
Re:28-year-old makes millions buying from Walmart, selling o... by zaroth on Sunday November 05, 2017 @06:45PM (#15632491)
No recurring revenue, no actual customers, no secret sauce. Maybe some proprietary data models, but doesn't really sound like it.

So what would it be that someone was hypothetically paying for if they were to buy him out?

The blog following and sales classes probably are the key IP worth paying for.

Re:28-year-old makes millions buying from Walmart, selling o... by rubyfan on Sunday November 05, 2017 @07:41PM (#15632744)
He’s pretty honest about that in the article, anyone can do it; he wants them to; and he’s spending his personal time trying to convince others to.

The reinvestment is for something better than a juiced up valuation. He’s likely parlaying his profit into more inventory or scaling the team that he will profit from. Reinvestment isn’t always about selling the company.

Re:28-year-old makes millions buying from Walmart, selling o... by zaroth on Sunday November 05, 2017 @08:26PM (#15632908)
Agree the large reinvestment is necessary for any growing business. But if you want that equity to be worth much there has to be something there to buy.
Re:28-year-old makes millions buying from Walmart, selling o... by coldtea on Monday November 06, 2017 @03:17AM (#15634035)
>No recurring revenue, no actual customers, no secret sauce. Maybe some proprietary data models, but doesn't really sound like it.

So exactly like most of the 100s-of-millions valued internet startups?

(But in this case, actually making a profit)

Re:28-year-old makes millions buying from Walmart, selling o... by westwooded on Sunday November 05, 2017 @03:15PM (#15631331)
I agree. The article is intentionally vague. Millions of dollars in revenue is relatively easy vs. millions in net profit.

That said, presumably the value of the entity could be a multiple of the revenue. Either way the article fails to shed enough light on it.

Re:28-year-old makes millions buying from Walmart, selling o... by pulse7 on Sunday November 05, 2017 @04:28PM (#15631712)
And it is written also "...his business is making seven-figure profits..."
Re:28-year-old makes millions buying from Walmart, selling o... by notyourday on Monday November 06, 2017 @09:13AM (#15635535)
The level of hate towards someone who is successfully working for himself, making $150k a year, no being beholden to meetings, stand-ups, managers that don't understand how special the posters are while shaking as a leafs in November being afraid that they won't be able to afford the next rent increase in Silly Valley or that as they turn forty is just amazing.
Re:28-year-old makes millions buying from Walmart, selling o... by wpietri on Monday November 06, 2017 @01:59PM (#15637905)
Huh. Not sure who you're talking to, but I opened with "good for him", and I meant it.
Re:28-year-old makes millions buying from Walmart, selling o... by notyourday on Monday November 06, 2017 @02:48PM (#15638431)
It was directed at the general posture of comments disassembling and not believing his business model, saying that he cannot be as good as Walmart at predicting demand and hence should go out of business, etc.
Re:28-year-old makes millions buying from Walmart, selling o... by icedchai on Monday November 06, 2017 @12:21PM (#15636986)
Amazing, right? This guy is living the dream.
Re:28-year-old makes millions buying from Walmart, selling o... by eli on Sunday November 05, 2017 @03:04PM (#15631280)
You're confusing the salary he pays himself with the success of the business.
Re:28-year-old makes millions buying from Walmart, selling o... by tyingq on Sunday November 05, 2017 @03:16PM (#15631332)
There's this: "Grant says the business is on track to top $8 million in total sales by the end of this year"

But, the actual net margin is unclear. At least $150k, since he paid himself that. But it's not clear that it's millions.

Re:28-year-old makes millions buying from Walmart, selling o... by ssanders82 on Sunday November 05, 2017 @03:37PM (#15631418)
the article says "his business is making seven-figure profits"
Re:28-year-old makes millions buying from Walmart, selling o... by tyingq on Sunday November 05, 2017 @03:47PM (#15631456)
Hmm. Seems unlikely given the manual nature of shopping at WalMart, shipping costs, returns, etc, on an $8M revenue base.

Edit: He contradicts himself..."four years later, we're a team of 11 and we're doing well over $200,000 in sales per month"

$200k/month isn't even close to $8M/year. And you aren't netting 7 figures with $200k/month and 11 employees. Now I'm thinking this is just a puff piece for his get-rich-quick lecture series. Too bad, as it's probably still a decent story with the actual figures. Just not a rags to riches one.

I'm also having trouble visualizing 11 people buying $8M (retail) worth of stuff from WalMart in shopping carts. That's $2k per day, per employee, every day.

Re:28-year-old makes millions buying from Walmart, selling o... by jaaames on Sunday November 05, 2017 @04:19PM (#15631648)
This is exactly spot on.

The article is just content marketing for him to sell his "get rich with an FBA business" course.

Re:28-year-old makes millions buying from Walmart, selling o... by mcphage on Sunday November 05, 2017 @09:36PM (#15633139)
> $200k/month isn't even close to $8M/year.

It doesn't say $8M/year, it says $8M total sales by the end of this year. So from the founding of his company, to the end of this year.

Re:28-year-old makes millions buying from Walmart, selling o... by bayesian_horse on Sunday November 05, 2017 @04:18PM (#15631639)
This "company" may be doing something else, additionally to these flipping schemes. Seminars are mentioned. Consulting may be something else. Or some other form of ecommerce.
Re:28-year-old makes millions buying from Walmart, selling o... by tyingq on Sunday November 05, 2017 @04:32PM (#15631743)
"Seminars are mentioned"

Ahh, yes, of course.

Re:28-year-old makes millions buying from Walmart, selling o... by Mz on Sunday November 05, 2017 @04:36PM (#15631765)
So, if you knew how to make money doing x and genuinely wanted to share that info, how would you do so effectively without being perceived as a scam artist?
Re:28-year-old makes millions buying from Walmart, selling o... by tyingq on Sunday November 05, 2017 @04:42PM (#15631801)
Here's his landing page: https://ose.teachable.com/p/how-to-make-your-first-1-000-sel...

Your call on whether it's a genuine desire to share his success.

Re:28-year-old makes millions buying from Walmart, selling o... by Mz on Sunday November 05, 2017 @04:42PM (#15631805)
That in no way answers my question.
Re:28-year-old makes millions buying from Walmart, selling o... by sliverstorm on Sunday November 05, 2017 @06:09PM (#15632334)
Do it for free, perhaps
Re:28-year-old makes millions buying from Walmart, selling o... by Mz on Sunday November 05, 2017 @06:18PM (#15632383)
I am trying to do exactly that. One establishment would not post the flyer "because it might be a pyramid scheme." So simply being free seems insufficient.

But, thank you.

Re:28-year-old makes millions buying from Walmart, selling o... by sliverstorm on Sunday November 05, 2017 @06:44PM (#15632485)
Well and of course free sometimes begs "so what's the catch"

In which case very cheap sometimes works. Like, "I'm not looking to make money but help me cover gas and venue rental"

Re:28-year-old makes millions buying from Walmart, selling o... by Mz on Sunday November 05, 2017 @06:46PM (#15632496)
Not in this case. I live in a town with a high unemployment rate and lots of homeless. I am newly off the street and would like to help people in dire straights. They don't have money to spare.
Re:28-year-old makes millions buying from Walmart, selling o... by stonemetal on Sunday November 05, 2017 @07:53PM (#15632787)
Hire them into your business. Teach them the ropes. Then turn them loose with some seed money.
Re:28-year-old makes millions buying from Walmart, selling o... by Mz on Sunday November 05, 2017 @08:27PM (#15632919)
I work for a service called Textbroker. Unlike Upwork, it is not a race to the bottom. You can start off making very little and grow your income, potentially to a middle class level. It helped me get off the street.

I sometimes recommended them to online friends who had just lost a job or whatever, but they didn't get it. They didn't see what I saw.

So, I started a blog to try to explain how to make it work for you:

http://writepay.blogspot.com

I also have a longstanding homeless site:

http://sandiegohomelesssurvivalguide.blogspot.com

I created flyers:

http://sandiegohomelesssurvivalguide.blogspot.com/2017/10/sp...

A couple of people I know socially are interested and have given me some useful feedback. I updated the flyers and one website because of the feedback I got.

I think I need to make local contacts and establish trust. Maybe do some volunteer work. I am not sure.

I would like to start here, but also actively encourage people to get into things like Etsy. There is good internet service in this town. But, I think they just need to get the word that it can be done. Remote work and gig work seems to be kind of big city, cosmopolitan culture. This is an area that historically did a lot of logging and fishing.

There is interest in, for example, IT related meetups. But nothing seems to actually be happening.

Re:28-year-old makes millions buying from Walmart, selling o... by tyingq on Sunday November 05, 2017 @07:11PM (#15632587)
Maybe present it as a barter deal?
Re:28-year-old makes millions buying from Walmart, selling o... by Mz on Sunday November 05, 2017 @07:18PM (#15632611)
Well, at the moment, I am just trying to direct people to a couple of websites. I have created flyers and I am looking for bulletin boards to post them. I would be willing to do meet-ups or something.

Maybe if I were representing some religious organization, people might buy that I am just well meaning. But, I don't do religion.

:/

Re:28-year-old makes millions buying from Walmart, selling o... by esrauch on Monday November 06, 2017 @04:30AM (#15634331)
If you were associated with a nonprofit / charity that seems like it would go a long way to convincing people you are on the level.
Re:28-year-old makes millions buying from Walmart, selling o... by coldtea on Monday November 06, 2017 @03:21AM (#15634045)
>$200k/month isn't even close to $8M/year.

He said $8M total (over 4 years), not $8M a year.

If one is going to discredit the article, at least they could read it carefully.

Re:28-year-old makes millions buying from Walmart, selling o... by astura on Sunday November 05, 2017 @04:46PM (#15631825)
Not only that but, I don't know about Walmart specifically, but retailers tend to ban high volume resellers.
Re:28-year-old makes millions buying from Walmart, selling o... by elvirs on Sunday November 05, 2017 @11:17PM (#15633411)
exactly, lets say he really does make 200k in sales per month. and lets say he happens to enjoy 100% profit margin (very impossible) thats 200k-100k-50k (amazon fees) leaves him with 50k profit per month. 10 employees excluding him is 25-35k range, and 1.5-2k rent for warhouse and 1k for all utilities and shipping supplies. that leaves the guy making around 10k a month before taxes. very far from ‘millions’
Re:28-year-old makes millions buying from Walmart, selling o... by anonu on Sunday November 05, 2017 @04:58PM (#15631900)
"generates millions" would have been better wording in the headline
Re:28-year-old makes millions buying from Walmart, selling o... by ProAm on Sunday November 05, 2017 @10:13PM (#15633237)
How many startups would love to make this much a year??