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Re:If you type the letter “i” and it autocorrects to an “A” ... by peterburkimsher on Saturday November 04, 2017 @11:33PM (#15628070)
I use iOS 6.1.3 on an iPhone 4S, jailbroken and running offline apps, syncing with iTunes 10.6.3 over USB, no iCloud.

It worked great 6 years ago, and it still works now. I'm not persuaded by the "updates" Apple keep trying to tell me to run; I think I'll lose more features and stability and battery life and USB sync, and not gain anything of any practical purpose to me.

If Android had USB sync, I'd consider converting. But swapping one cloud ecosystem for another just doesn't work for me, I want to keep my data offline.

Re:If you type the letter “i” and it autocorrects to an “A” ... by runeks on Sunday November 05, 2017 @03:02AM (#15628627)
Aren’t you missing a lot of security updates, though? Or does Apple backport these to previous iOS versions?

E.g. https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2017/07/broad...

Re:If you type the letter “i” and it autocorrects to an “A” ... by endemic on Sunday November 05, 2017 @08:08PM (#15632833)
You do miss the security updates. The trade-off is you have a device that isn’t dog slow.

Today I tried using an an old iPad 2 that was upgraded to iOS 7. It was literally unusable.

Re:If you type the letter “i” and it autocorrects to an “A” ... by y4mi on Sunday November 05, 2017 @01:01AM (#15628360)
> If Android had USB sync, I'd consider converting. But swapping one cloud ecosystem for another just doesn't work for me, I want to keep my data offline.

Uuuh,it does last time I checked. You can even create backups with debug enabled. Nobody uses it though because plugging the phone to the PC is annoying.

You are also not required to use the Google drive services for file syncing. Setting up an owncloud server gives you pretty much the same benefits and interactions that gdrive provides

Re:If you type the letter “i” and it autocorrects to an “A” ... by mjevans on Sunday November 05, 2017 @03:08AM (#15628644)
Andorid phones (the modern ones anyway) do support the MTP protocol... but it's horrid if you're trying to do something like transfer large files for storage of any type; it's like it was written with the old 4GB file limits in mind.
Re:If you type the letter “i” and it autocorrects to an “A” ... by josteink on Sunday November 05, 2017 @03:58AM (#15628749)
Iirc «adb backup» is a command these days and it doesn’t rely on MTP.
Re:If you type the letter “i” and it autocorrects to an “A” ... by tortasaur on Sunday November 05, 2017 @10:25AM (#15629796)
Google has an adb-sync script that works really well.
Re:If you type the letter “i” and it autocorrects to an “A” ... by bane on Sunday November 05, 2017 @09:23AM (#15629506)
If you really need to transfer files to-from your phone just install an ftp server or something on it and remote into it. I do it all the time and it's great.

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.icecoldapp...

Re:If you type the letter “i” and it autocorrects to an “A” ... by interfixus on Sunday November 05, 2017 @06:55AM (#15629045)
https://syncthing.net/

I never think about it. If it's on my phone, it's on my PC.

Re:If you type the letter “i” and it autocorrects to an “A” ... by peterburkimsher on Sunday November 05, 2017 @11:39AM (#15630151)
What do you use to manage your music library? I don't just need a backup option, I need apps that can manage my music/contacts/calendar databases.
Re:If you type the letter “i” and it autocorrects to an “A” ... by tgragnato on Sunday November 05, 2017 @01:11PM (#15630698)
OwnCloud / NextCloud includes native support for CalDAV and CardDAV (using SabreDAV internally). You can synchronize your music library too.
Re:If you type the letter “i” and it autocorrects to an “A” ... by ungzd on Sunday November 05, 2017 @06:48AM (#15629032)
> If Android had USB sync

It has, but last time I tried it (on Galaxy Nexus with Android 4.x), it was completely unusable. Transfers freezed and crashed all the time. I was unable to upload a single music album even after few tries.

Re:If you type the letter “i” and it autocorrects to an “A” ... by lokelow on Sunday November 05, 2017 @06:01AM (#15628939)
I have an up to date 4s, but that means iOS 9.3.5. It works great, only problem is web browsing. Most sites load too much junk and can crash the phone. Brave is the only browser I can use, and it works pretty good for most sites.
Re:If you type the letter “i” and it autocorrects to an “A” ... by nmstoker on Sunday November 05, 2017 @07:42AM (#15629148)
On another practical point: isn't your battery completely shot by now?

I've never seen a phone where it isn't obviously somewhat impaired after 2 years, so what is it like on something that's 3 to 6 years old? Or do you get it replaced often?

Re:If you type the letter “i” and it autocorrects to an “A” ... by peterburkimsher on Sunday November 05, 2017 @11:39AM (#15630145)
I tried to buy a replacement battery, but that expanded dangerously until I noticed marks coming from behind the screen, so I popped open the case to have a look and promptly removed it.

I use a Third Rail case, so I can recharge easily. I don't use 3G, and all my apps work offline.

https://www.amazon.com/Third-Rail-Protective-Compatible-Rech...

One of the reasons I still like my phone is because of that case. I wish there was something similar for another phone. The external batteries also have microUSB in and out, so I can charge friends' phones too.

Re:If you type the letter “i” and it autocorrects to an “A” ... by majewsky on Sunday November 05, 2017 @08:22AM (#15629257)
I had a Nexus 4 from 2013-2016 (so three years) and now have a OnePlus One (for 1.5 years now), and I didn't observe any loss of battery capacity on either.
Re:If you type the letter “i” and it autocorrects to an “A” ... by brookside on Sunday November 05, 2017 @09:31AM (#15629543)
I would assume replaced often.

But replacing, not getting it replaced. At least on my 5 it is a few screws worth of work to swap.

Re:If you type the letter “i” and it autocorrects to an “A” ... by elsurudo on Sunday November 05, 2017 @07:13AM (#15629084)
I use a 4S with 7, but decided not to upgrade further. There was a performance decrease from 6 to 7, but it's still very usable.
Re:If you type the letter “i” and it autocorrects to an “A” ... by Yizahi on Sunday November 05, 2017 @04:59AM (#15628840)
I was using 4S with 6.x until a year ago too.