> It's going to also eventually revolutionize warfighting, and I suspect that the US will be slower to adopt it than other countries because of the ethical and moral considerations of turning over decisions about life and death to machines.

I like your assumption that the US actually cares about moral or ethical considerations, considering how many governments they've overthrown, how many terrorists they've funded, etc...

Not to mention the fact that they are already the leaders in drone warfare, and routinely use drones to drop bombs on civilians. I really don't see them giving a fuck if an algorithm bombs a wedding instead of someone staring at a screen pressing the button...

And the fact that people can assert otherwise without blushing kind of goes to show it's all right on track, including the psy ops aspect. If control of the hemisphere requires control of the planet, if modern communications mean control can only be maintained by controlling speech and thought in every nook and cranny -- then so be it. The people who don't want power at the expense of becoming a monster don't reach high echelons of power, they remain at the PR level.

To think in terms of countries, instead of interest groups within countries, is not even wrong. It's not countries vying for power, it's elites within a country using the elites in another country to suppress and exploit "their" populace. Two dictators in two neighboring countries might genuinely hate each other, but they still can use the other one as the perfect excuse to clamp down.

Soldiers are at best there to defend other soldiers. It's like having a debugger that can fix bugs only the debugger introduces, with the operative word being "can" -- so the net result is negative. What goes for soldiers goes for killer drones, and a white list approach, killing everyone on the planet who is not flagged for survival, would be already easier to make than, say, self-driving vehicles. We're already there, now all that remains is to sell it, and that is going butter smooth. We're still wide eyed and sleep walking, we absolutely need more powder in this keg so when it goes boom, nobody will even have time to ask anyone "what did you know, what did you choose to not learn, what did you do and what have you failed to do?".

I do think that politically, it would be a difficult change to make.

In your comment, you don't have a single statement that would actually compare US to any other government. I assume you understand the difference between absolute and relative value judgements?

I think it's unlikely there will be a confident enough solution to nuclear MAD within 5-10 years, which would be a requirement for being bold enough to blitzkrieg... even with AI drone armies.

Right. How many ICBM subs does the use still have? And how many warheads? Everyone in North America could be dead, and they'd probably still launch.

Full Spectrum Dominance; war by air, land, sea, RF, nuclear, and through subversion of media, polticial processes, food supplies, pharma, medicine, ecology, culture, religion, economies, manipulation of demographics...

This is the reality of power struggle (all means are in the game), but this new level of reach, spread and deep integration has been within reach and in active development for at least 200 years, and it's just going get worse. It's enabled by bureacracy, "one voter, one vote" democracy in the face of a mature media manipulation ("mind control") industry, capitalism and other trappings of civilization. ML is just going to end up automating the doctrine of FSD.

I think I'm moving out of the city to learn to live off the land, be independent and raise a family. I think it may be very interesting to see how I can use modern technology in that context, while making sure I don't absolutely depend on it.

Anyone else think it's quite possible there will be a lot of new wars in Western countries in 20-40 years, when the tipping point of replacement migration is reached?

> ML is just going to end up automating the doctrine of FSD.

That's it in a nutshell. The ultimate black box to bow down to. We already do this with in so many ways, just following orders, just repeating what we hear, and so on.. and people think we're become less spineless and murderous as this wet dream of sociopathy is introduced? Yeah, right. Some list biased training data as a pitfall, from the "correct" perspective that is absolutely a feature, that is the point.

> Anyone else think it's quite possible there will be a lot of new wars in Western countries in 20-40 years

In real life? I can't think of anyone I can have normal, intelligent conversations with who doesn't express worries that get flagged on HN. And I'm not talking leftist young people, I'm talking everybody, from 20 to 85.