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Re:Tesla posts big loss, cuts production of Models X and S t... by dmix on Wednesday November 01, 2017 @07:04PM (#15606292)
> The negative press on autopilot and failure to deliver on autopilot 2.0

Was there more than that accident with the old version? I havent heard much about this...

Re:Tesla posts big loss, cuts production of Models X and S t... by opencl on Wednesday November 01, 2017 @10:13PM (#15607280)
HW2 has been out for over a year and has yet to reach feature parity with HW1. I would call that a "failure to deliver". Earlier this year Musk said “November or December of this year, we should be able to go from a parking lot in California to a parking lot in New York, no controls touched at any point during the entire journey.”

It's November and they don't even have automatic windshield wipers working.

See: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1FGexNNm8rOXB24qQ1bdI...

Re:Tesla posts big loss, cuts production of Models X and S t... by chc on Wednesday November 01, 2017 @10:20PM (#15607311)
The negative press was basically just 15000 different ways of saying "A car once crashed while on Autopilot, and I have a theory about how it means the whole product is a sham." There's really not much more to it besides me-tooing.

But the failure to deliver is real. The entire Autopilot project is way behind schedule. AP2 was supposed to reach feature parity last year, but it didn't until quite recently, and it's still widely considered not to be as good as experience as the original Autopilot yet.

Re:Tesla posts big loss, cuts production of Models X and S t... by saas_co_de on Wednesday November 01, 2017 @11:09PM (#15607536)
https://www.fastcompany.com/4043602/a-driver-claimed-teslas-... http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4276810/Dashboard-ca... https://qz.com/783009/the-scary-similarities-between-teslas-... https://jalopnik.com/autopilot-blamed-for-tesla-crashing-and... https://electrek.co/2017/03/27/tesla-model-x-autopilot-crash... http://autoweek.com/article/autonomous-cars/tesla-autopilot-... http://fortune.com/2016/05/26/tesla-autopilot-crash/ https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2017/apr/03/the-custo... https://www.usatoday.com/story/tech/nation-now/2017/03/28/te... https://www.teslarati.com/rare-tesla-model-x-founder-series-... https://www.teslarati.com/lawsuit-alleges-tesla-death-not-ha... http://www.dutchnews.nl/news/archives/2017/04/self-driving-t...

This is a sample of the first 100 articles from Google News on "Tesla Autopilot Crash" - in total you have about 10 unique incidents with 100s of stories in different outlets written about it.

Lots of sensational headlines and a lot of the incidents are pretty dubious about what the actual cause is but to casual readers its adds up to a cloud of doubt about Tesla repeated across many big name media sources.

Most of these same media sources also run plenty of enthusiastic coverage on Tesla so it really depends on your pre-judgements what you take away from it. Tech enthusiasts will tend to minimize the negative stories whereas people not interested in tech who are more safety concerned will give them much more weight.

Re:Tesla posts big loss, cuts production of Models X and S t... by dmix on Thursday November 02, 2017 @11:08AM (#15611068)
Thanks, that's why I asked, Googling it led me down a rabbit hole.