Re:The concept of schizophrenia is dying
by RHSman2 on Tuesday October 31, 2017 @09:15AM
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I don't disagree BUT there is a cost with consumption In My Opinion.
p.s. I was part of the ten 16 yr olds. I am very aware of how far it can go.
Re:The concept of schizophrenia is dying
by hutzlibu on Tuesday October 31, 2017 @09:56AM
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For sure there is a cost. But there is a cost with everything.
And I know that it can go very far. And also very far down. Actually I have to deal with exactly that right now. Someone who started of dreaming of a better world, but now reduced to a lying, selfish asshole, who now only cares, on how to sneak money out of people around him, so he can continue doing nothing and smoke his last brain cells out, while blaming everyone else. No wonder this person developed a heavy psychosis. So I know of the dangers.
But still, this person is an excemption, because otherwise allmost everyone I know of my generation, smoked weed (or more) at some point, got new experience of it or just had fun - and now lives a ordinary life.
Re:The concept of schizophrenia is dying
by I_am_tiberius on Tuesday October 31, 2017 @09:04AM
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"very often rewards lying and assholeness". How true.
But there is a different view to it, than just claiming "drugs are bad".
Because there are quite some people claiming, that a "normal, standard life" with a 9 to 5 job and bounded by many weird social customs in a hectic enviroment which very often rewards lying and assholeness - is in itself not healthy. And some drugs can enable people to step outside and see things from a different angle, that "normal" is maybe not allways good. And that a different "normal" might be possible.
The main problem arises if those people now decide to escape into the psychodelic world, instead of using their insights to actually do things differently. Most of them will mentally break down, sooner or later.
And btw. "If you take ten 16 yr olds, allow them to experiment" ... most 16 yr olds will experiment, whether you allow them, or not. Which I think is good in general, for progress for the new generation, but I think the chances are much higher for things go dark, if you push them too much into illegality. Then it is much harder to help them find moderation and balancing.
So I would argue, drugs can be and are beneficial for society to develop. But they are powerful and therefore dangerous.