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Re:Butterfly iQ – A cheap handheld ultrasound tool with AI s... by jazoom on Monday October 30, 2017 @07:28PM (#15589912)
I'm looking forward to having an inexpensive portable USS to help find veins. I doubt consumers will pay for one of these, except maybe for pregnancy.
Re:Butterfly iQ – A cheap handheld ultrasound tool with AI s... by JshWright on Monday October 30, 2017 @07:31PM (#15589932)
Yeah, this sort of thing is making quick inroads in prehospital care (this is far from the first portable ultrasound). Finding veins, FAST[1] scans, assessing the heart more directly during cardiac arrest, etc.

[1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Focused_assessment_with_sonogr...

Re:Butterfly iQ – A cheap handheld ultrasound tool with AI s... by jazoom on Monday October 30, 2017 @09:03PM (#15590383)
We've been using portable USS machines for years but I suppose what I meant is one I can keep in my pocket and one that doesn't cost $150000.
Re:Butterfly iQ – A cheap handheld ultrasound tool with AI s... by JshWright on Monday October 30, 2017 @09:05PM (#15590398)
The GE Vscan has been around for years.
Re:Butterfly iQ – A cheap handheld ultrasound tool with AI s... by jazoom on Monday October 30, 2017 @09:16PM (#15590436)
That's interesting. I've not seen that before. Still seems to be far more expensive than what I'm thinking of, though.

I'm looking forward to the day when every junior doctor can have one around their neck like every doctor has a stethoscope.

Re:Butterfly iQ – A cheap handheld ultrasound tool with AI s... by JshWright on Monday October 30, 2017 @10:18PM (#15590677)
Why? What gap do you think it fills in the routine assessment?

I'm all for expanding access to US, but I'm very wary of throwing gadgets for the sake of gadgets at doctors...

Re:Butterfly iQ – A cheap handheld ultrasound tool with AI s... by jazoom on Monday October 30, 2017 @10:22PM (#15590694)
Patients who need an IVC and have brittle veins and peripheral oedema.

It comes up a lot.

I never said anything about routine assessment.

Re:Butterfly iQ – A cheap handheld ultrasound tool with AI s... by JshWright on Monday October 30, 2017 @10:27PM (#15590712)
Sure, I would love a portable ultrasound in the back of my ambulance for that very reason. I still use my stethoscope _way_ more often than I start an IV where US would be handy.
Re:Butterfly iQ – A cheap handheld ultrasound tool with AI s... by jazoom on Monday October 30, 2017 @11:47PM (#15590973)
I don't know why you keep putting words into my mouth. I never suggested it would replace a stethoscope.
Re:Butterfly iQ – A cheap handheld ultrasound tool with AI s... by JshWright on Tuesday October 31, 2017 @06:31AM (#15592131)
You said every doctor should have one with them "like a stethoscope". I don't know where you got "replace" from...

My point is that a stethoscope is an essential tool for assessing every patient. An ultrasound is a specialized tool for assessing a very small subset of patients.

Re:Butterfly iQ – A cheap handheld ultrasound tool with AI s... by jazoom on Tuesday October 31, 2017 @06:40AM (#15592168)
I said "can". I don't know where you got "should" from.