Please don't invoke the astroturfing/shillage meme here unless you have something specific (i.e. more substantive than someone happening to hold a divergent view) to point to. It isn't that what you said is wrong, it's that this topic leads to bottom-of-the-barrel discussion quality, like the below. It's always the same and it's tedious. That's why we added a bit about it to the HN guidelines: https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html.

Real astroturfing and shilling exist, but internet users also frequently imagine it. There's no way out of this hall of mirrors—discussions just die there—so we all need to have the discipline to avoid it by default.

If anyone thinks they're seeing real astroturfing on HN they should email us so we can investigate.