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Re:Write tests. Not too many. Mostly integration by seanwilson on Friday October 27, 2017 @01:35PM (#15570513)
Can you do that with TDD though? Why not just sketch the code out first before you start writing tests?

I find TDD proponents don't take into account that writing tests can actually be really time consuming and challenging, and when you've got a lot of code that is tests, refactoring your tests becomes very tedious.

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Re:Write tests. Not too many. Mostly integration by crdoconnor on Friday October 27, 2017 @06:12PM (#15572619)
You can do that with TDD (it's called outside-in), although I agree that it is time consuming and challenging, especially without the right tools.
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