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Re:Catalan parliament declares independence from Spain by narag on Friday October 27, 2017 @10:31AM (#15568680)
That right is only for colonies or genocide, not the case of Catalonia at all. They're one of the richest spanish regions.

Edit: they've neve been independent, that's more of the bs that we're hearing these days.

Re:Catalan parliament declares independence from Spain by lllllll on Friday October 27, 2017 @11:03AM (#15569043)
I believe that's a common misconception. UN charter makes no mention of colonies Art 1.2(http://www.un.org/en/sections/un-charter/chapter-i/index.htm...). Although a UN-charter-based document is applied to colonies, which is what you might be referring to.
Re:Catalan parliament declares independence from Spain by narag on Friday October 27, 2017 @12:04PM (#15569685)
There's no definition there, it's just mentioned and of course there's a complete definition elsewhere.
Re:Catalan parliament declares independence from Spain by ben_w on Friday October 27, 2017 @10:44AM (#15568830)
What is the fundamental difference between a colony and any other patch of territory?
Re:Catalan parliament declares independence from Spain by narag on Friday October 27, 2017 @11:37AM (#15569424)
Are you serious?
Re:Catalan parliament declares independence from Spain by ben_w on Friday October 27, 2017 @12:08PM (#15569724)
Yes, I am. While people displaced by a colony are obviously disadvantaged, the colony itself and its residents are not.
Re:Catalan parliament declares independence from Spain by dragonwriter on Friday October 27, 2017 @03:15PM (#15571344)
> While people displaced by a colony are obviously disadvantaged, the colony itself and its residents are not.

I think you may be confusing the pattern of colonization in British North America with colonization more generally; the pattern elsewhere was more often of subordination to an imported elite rather than displacement.

Re:Catalan parliament declares independence from Spain by ben_w on Friday October 27, 2017 @05:07PM (#15572233)
Good answer, but you’ve made me realise I made an even deeper error — I was thinking like Civilization: cities as the fundamental unit, not the productive capacity of the nearby land they control.