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Re:Catalan parliament declares independence from Spain by barrkel on Friday October 27, 2017 @10:19AM (#15568519)
Referendums are a way of converting democratic mandates into decisions; but the democratic mandate doesn't go away just because the referendum isn't valid.

More than 50% (70 of 135) of the democratically elected local parliament voted for independence too.

Re:Catalan parliament declares independence from Spain by narag on Friday October 27, 2017 @10:25AM (#15568593)
The referendum was not just illegal, it was clearly rigged. The local parliament lack the power the vote for independence, that's just a farce.
Re:Catalan parliament declares independence from Spain by felipeko on Friday October 27, 2017 @10:51AM (#15568927)
So Spain gets to keep Catalonia as a colony because it is the one with power to make the rules?
Re:Catalan parliament declares independence from Spain by alvatar on Friday October 27, 2017 @11:04AM (#15569054)
A colony of Spain? What is that based on?
Re:Catalan parliament declares independence from Spain by felipeko on Friday October 27, 2017 @11:25AM (#15569289)
The definition of the word colony

From google:

> a country or area under the full or partial political control of another country, typically a distant one, and occupied by settlers from that country.

From wikipedia:

> In politics and history, a colony is a territory under the immediate political control of a state, distinct from the home territory of the sovereign.

If Spain asserts itself as the ruler of Catalonia, without the will of the Catalans, it appears to me that the word is very apt.

Re:Catalan parliament declares independence from Spain by narag on Friday October 27, 2017 @11:43AM (#15569491)
Except not one of the requirements is meet: Catalonia is part of Spain since Spain was created with the marriage of the Reyes Católicos. Catalonia is not another country, is just a part of the same country, in the same peninsula as the most part of Spain, is not occupied, hasn't been independent ever... Also it's one of the richest regions of Spain, demanding just to avoid to support with taxes to poorer regions.
Re:Catalan parliament declares independence from Spain by alvatar on Friday October 27, 2017 @11:46AM (#15569518)
I suppose the word colony is a matter of perspective. But I have a hard time equating Catalonia to the offshore territories the Europeans considered colonies in the past (and still to some extent). Especially considering that Catalonia was part of the European collonialism as part of Spain and profited from it as well. In which point in History Catalonia exactly was that distinct territory that was invaded by Spain?