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Re:Why We Must Fight for the Right to Repair Our Electronics by sspiff on Wednesday October 25, 2017 @01:48AM (#15547805)
Care to explain what you mean by that? As far as I can tell, vendors ship crapware as software installed on Windows, and you can always remove it by reinstalling Windows or often just uninstalling the bundled software.

Do they ever go beyond that?

Re:Why We Must Fight for the Right to Repair Our Electronics by inapis on Wednesday October 25, 2017 @02:05AM (#15547873)
Lenovo used the UEFI/BIOS tables to load crapware back into a fresh retail user-installed windows setup. The bios table was named Window Platform Binary Table
Re:Why We Must Fight for the Right to Repair Our Electronics by mcv on Wednesday October 25, 2017 @02:17AM (#15547921)
Lenovo? That sucks. I was considering a Thinkpad to get out of Apple's stranglehold. I'd put Linux on it of course, but I'm still not happy buying from a company that pulls crap like that.
Re:Why We Must Fight for the Right to Repair Our Electronics by lorenzhs on Wednesday October 25, 2017 @03:24AM (#15548175)
I’m not defending the shit Lenovo‘s been pulling these last few years, but it’s worth noting that none of it (neither the Superfish fiasco nor this) affected ThinkPads. Apparently their consumer line and ThinkPads are run quite separately. I hope that keeps them from messing up the ThinkPads...
Re:Why We Must Fight for the Right to Repair Our Electronics by exodust on Wednesday October 25, 2017 @03:09AM (#15548108)
Lenovo don't do this any more, and offers a way to remove the LSE: https://support.lenovo.com/au/en/product_security/lse_bios_n...

No excuses of course, and Microsoft can share the blame too.

Re:Why We Must Fight for the Right to Repair Our Electronics by slrz on Wednesday October 25, 2017 @02:35PM (#15552817)
That mechanism only works through cooperation of the OS installation process. It's actually the OS that asks the device whether there is any crapware it is supposed to ingest and then goes on to ingest it.

As long as you consent to that, everything is fine I guess. The software is doing its job as an agent of its users.

Re:Why We Must Fight for the Right to Repair Our Electronics by wiz21c on Wednesday October 25, 2017 @03:40AM (#15548239)
I wonder if russian or chinese or indian computers have that kind of annoying software...