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Re:C++17 Is Here: Interview with Herb Sutter by kllrnohj on Tuesday October 24, 2017 @03:54PM (#15544713)
Even if you want ordered by default a red-black tree is a bad way to get it. JavaScript has ordered maps, but engines like V8 use things like this: https://wiki.mozilla.org/User:Jorend/Deterministic_hash_tabl... instead.

It's not a question of ordered vs. unordered, it's a question of red-black trees vs. a hashed array of some sort.

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