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Re:Google's latest iPhone rival off to a rocky start by Bud on Monday October 23, 2017 @09:01PM (#15538339)
The headphone jack was emphatically NOT replaced by Bluetooth. It was replaced by a combination of Apple's W1-enhanced Bluetooth, which is not slow, not unreliable, etc., and also Lightning-based headphones.

You're also wrong about charging the phone while using Lightning headphones; there are already adapters that can do that. Plus, it's not necessary to charge your phone all the time; that's what having better battery life is about. And better battery life is made more possible by freeing up precious internal space that the outmoded, single-use headphone jack used to occupy.

If you can't watch a video without an audio delay, that means you're using really crappy headphones. Fix that. Don't blame Apple.

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Re:Google's latest iPhone rival off to a rocky start by Bud on Monday October 23, 2017 @10:05PM (#15538673)
You're right. I've deleted the offending line from my comment. And I apologize.
Re:Google's latest iPhone rival off to a rocky start by dang on Monday October 23, 2017 @10:26PM (#15538753)
Appreciated!
Re:Google's latest iPhone rival off to a rocky start by untog on Monday October 23, 2017 @09:09PM (#15538371)
> The headphone jack was emphatically NOT replaced by Bluetooth. It was replaced by a combination of Apple's W1-enhanced Bluetooth, which is not slow, not unreliable, etc., and also Lightning-based headphones.

That cost $160. Let's not dance around that. Airpods are extraordinarily expensive compared to the headphones everyone used to be able to use.

Re:Google's latest iPhone rival off to a rocky start by matwood on Monday October 23, 2017 @09:14PM (#15538400)
They are not extraordinarily more expensive than any BT ones I have used that work acceptably.

If you mean wired, those still work just as they did prior. The iPhone comes with the adapter.

Re:Google's latest iPhone rival off to a rocky start by Bud on Monday October 23, 2017 @09:21PM (#15538446)
Yes, the first iteration of W1-headphones are pricey. Point granted. But that will change. (Also, they are worth the price, which helps.)

BeatsX (with W1) are at $150, by the way. So the price is already down several percent! ;)

Re:Google's latest iPhone rival off to a rocky start by serf on Monday October 23, 2017 @09:06PM (#15538354)
>The headphone jack was emphatically NOT replaced by Bluetooth. It was replaced by a combination of Apple's W1-enhanced Bluetooth, which is not slow, not unreliable, etc., and also Lightning-based headphones.

Let's make a comparison.

Is the alternative faster or more reliable than the original that it's replacing?

No, not by any typical (audio) criterion.

Re:Google's latest iPhone rival off to a rocky start by hajile on Monday October 23, 2017 @09:19PM (#15538437)
A $150 pair of in ear monitors will have a huge impact on sound quality and the average person will continue to notice improvement into the $300 (dual driver) range before significant diminishing returns. Air pods don't come close to that quality for the same price.

Power usage matters much more in wireless headphones. Bluetooth takes power. DACs take power (better ones and better algorithms use even more power). Better drivers use more power (without considering the big response boost you get with multiple drivers at the cost of additional power usage). With super limited battery size, all of these are cut with a corresponding decrease in quality.

The USB and lightning ports tend to get a lot of interference from the dozens of digital signals mere hundredths of an inch away. The size of the 3.5mm seems to ensure that it's more isolated.

Re:Google's latest iPhone rival off to a rocky start by Larrikin on Monday October 23, 2017 @09:05PM (#15538349)
What about those of us with nice headphones that don't want to be locked into the Apple eco system.
Re:Google's latest iPhone rival off to a rocky start by matwood on Monday October 23, 2017 @09:13PM (#15538392)
The phone comes with an adapter. If you want another one, they cost $9. I believe the Pixel will be the same.
Re:Google's latest iPhone rival off to a rocky start by cwilkes on Monday October 23, 2017 @09:14PM (#15538403)
The iPhone came with a dongle.