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Re:Google's latest iPhone rival off to a rocky start by bb88 on Monday October 23, 2017 @07:44PM (#15537915)
We'll see how dropping the escape key does with people who love developing in vim.
Re:Google's latest iPhone rival off to a rocky start by ves on Monday October 23, 2017 @08:06PM (#15538070)
serious people map caps lock to escape!

Seriously though, using the corner esc key to get into normal mode sucked anyway.

Re:Google's latest iPhone rival off to a rocky start by radicaldreamer on Monday October 23, 2017 @08:20PM (#15538140)
What do people map control to then? The fundamental problem for this era of computing seems to be that people's needs/workflows are fragmenting while devices are converging, becoming more proprietary and one-size-fits-all.

Will there be a backlash to this? Possibly, but if dealing with a shitty keyboard is the cost of getting a high-end machine with great build quality, maybe not. People will come up with more and more workarounds to fix something which wasn't a problem a few years ago.

Re:Google's latest iPhone rival off to a rocky start by saladeen on Tuesday October 24, 2017 @09:10AM (#15541225)
Let me let you in on a big mac daddy secret sauce:

Map both ctrl and esc to caps lock key: when it's pressed and released on its own, it sends an Esc; when it's used as a modifier key (pressed together with another key), it sends a Ctrl.

http://www.economyofeffort.com/2014/08/11/beyond-ctrl-remap-...

Re:Google's latest iPhone rival off to a rocky start by ves on Sunday October 29, 2017 @01:22AM (#15578068)
+1000 this is what I use and it's amazing.
Re:Google's latest iPhone rival off to a rocky start by bitexploder on Monday October 23, 2017 @10:47PM (#15538831)
I mean... Dell and PC still have plenty of options. My Pixel has a headphone Jack. My laptop can be upgradeable...

I am not sure I buy the one size fits all argument. That is mostly an Apple thing.

Also, while it's true Apple quality was higher the last few generations are much worse. We have had numerous service issues come up, keyboards now break... I can't see Apple quality being what it once was.

Re:Google's latest iPhone rival off to a rocky start by eloisant on Tuesday October 24, 2017 @04:18AM (#15540023)
A few days ago my OS and applications were all customized to death, I had huge dotfiles to cater to my specific needs.

But now I decided it's easier to learn the "standard" configuration than to configure every computer I have to touch.

Re:Google's latest iPhone rival off to a rocky start by nicky0 on Monday October 23, 2017 @08:27PM (#15538175)
I map ctrl to ctrl
Re:Google's latest iPhone rival off to a rocky start by radicaldreamer on Monday October 23, 2017 @08:29PM (#15538184)
lol... but Mac keyboards have small ctrl keys!! :)
Re:Google's latest iPhone rival off to a rocky start by whataretensors on Monday October 23, 2017 @08:28PM (#15538180)
I type in dvorak but I've never been able to stop the escape spamming.

Habits are strange.

Re:Google's latest iPhone rival off to a rocky start by monocasa on Monday October 23, 2017 @08:16PM (#15538119)
Or get a computer with a sane keyboard.
Re:Google's latest iPhone rival off to a rocky start by rifung on Monday October 23, 2017 @07:54PM (#15537986)
I don't think it'll matter? I think it will just drive adoption of Ctrl + [ for vim users which is arguably better anyway since it's closer to the home row
Re:Google's latest iPhone rival off to a rocky start by nathancahill on Monday October 23, 2017 @08:08PM (#15538081)
I preemptively remapped escape to caps lock since my next laptop probably won't have an escape key. It took about a day to adjust to. Now, I can't see how I ever used escape in the first place, it's so far to reach.

Although now, I keep turning on caps lock when I use other people's computers.

Re:Google's latest iPhone rival off to a rocky start by sooheon on Monday October 23, 2017 @08:06PM (#15538068)
The home row isn’t magic, I don’t get the obsession with it. Our fingers don’t lie in a naturally perfectly straight line—each finger has its natural zone, it tends to stray vertically from the home row.
Re:Google's latest iPhone rival off to a rocky start by rifung on Tuesday October 24, 2017 @12:11AM (#15539153)
Well I suppose my fingers normally stay around the home row because that's how I was taught. I suppose it's my mistake for assuming that's how others type!

Nevertheless, esc is still super far away from all the letters which is presumably what you are likely to be pressing.

Re:Google's latest iPhone rival off to a rocky start by steveeq1 on Tuesday October 24, 2017 @01:52PM (#15543593)
Ctrl-C