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Re:A Planetary Scientist: 'I Do Not Want to Live on Mars' by mr_monkeywrench on Sunday October 22, 2017 @04:16PM (#15528706)
A Mars mission — even if you ignore the radiation danger has a massive engineering hurdles.

How does one land — decelerate to a safe landing. The amount of fuel required to fire a mars retro rocket is many times that on earth. Then you need to lift off.

Getting to mars is not the issue — landing and taking off is the major challenge.

Re:A Planetary Scientist: 'I Do Not Want to Live on Mars' by nbarbettini on Sunday October 22, 2017 @04:35PM (#15528796)
I think you have that backwards? Taking off from Mars is significantly easier than earth because of lower gravity and a less-dense atmosphere.
Re:A Planetary Scientist: 'I Do Not Want to Live on Mars' by lawpoop on Sunday October 22, 2017 @11:52PM (#15530593)
How do you fuel the rocket on Mars?
Re:A Planetary Scientist: 'I Do Not Want to Live on Mars' by yellowapple on Monday October 23, 2017 @02:47AM (#15531177)
All you need is oxygen and hydrogen. Both of those are actually plentiful on Mars.
Re:A Planetary Scientist: 'I Do Not Want to Live on Mars' by leksak on Monday October 23, 2017 @04:56AM (#15531719)
And the machinery to gather them etcetera etcetera... Just because the raw material is there doesn't rocket fuel make. And I'd be hard pressed to say that oxygen is plentiful on Mars. There is some oxygen.
Re:A Planetary Scientist: 'I Do Not Want to Live on Mars' by yellowapple on Tuesday October 24, 2017 @11:38AM (#15542362)
"And the machinery to gather them"

That machinery can be sent gradually and ahead-of-time.

"Just because the raw material is there doesn't rocket fuel make"

No, but it means that such fuel is at least possible.

"I'd be hard pressed to say that oxygen is plentiful on Mars"

The current understanding is that there's millions of cubic meters of water ice on or near the Martian surface (with even more suspected further beneath the surface). Sounds pretty plentiful to me.

Re:A Planetary Scientist: 'I Do Not Want to Live on Mars' by lawpoop on Monday October 23, 2017 @05:36PM (#15537132)
Neither of those are plentiful on Mars.
Re:A Planetary Scientist: 'I Do Not Want to Live on Mars' by yellowapple on Tuesday October 24, 2017 @11:33AM (#15542317)
Mars has lots of water ice, which is made (almost) exclusively of - you guessed it - hydrogen and oxygen.

So yes, both of those things are plentiful on Mars. Maybe not to Earth standards (or the standards of, say, Ceres or Enceladus), but certainly abundant compared to our own moon (at least as far as current information tells us).

Re:A Planetary Scientist: 'I Do Not Want to Live on Mars' by lawpoop on Thursday October 26, 2017 @12:36PM (#15560441)
It's all relative. If you already have enough energy to crack water, fueling a rocket is not a worry.