Re:Report: Ageism in the Tech Industry
by watwut on Friday October 20, 2017 @03:56PM
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> Not true for me. Most good developers I know like to share their knowledge and opinions via different channels.
You measure extroversion there. Good introverted developers exist too - in fact developers be more introverted then general population (there are stats on that). So do very good shy or humble developers. While real developers are on average nowhere near the nerd stereotype with social anxiety, plenty good developers are a bit like that (They dont talk much unless they know you a bit).
> WTF! why is not documenting stuff acceptable where you work?
What does that have to do with blogging? I said they dont like writing. I did not said they don't write documentation or comments when needed. How did you managed to twist "not liking to write" in context of blogs to "maintainable software"?
For that matter, real documentation, the one that is targeted at users, is written by technical writers mostly. Developers job is to explain it to writer - it is mostly that docs are more then full time jobs and good technical writer are really better at explaining stuff.
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How did you managed to twist "measure skills and contributions instead of projecting cool" to "doing the same thing dozens years"? Seriously.
The worst developer out there is is the one that does not do tasks that he does not like. You seem to treat it like the norm and assume that if someone does not visibly loudly jump up and down then he is going to slack it or something.
I don't think it is possible to know everything there is to know about application servers in three years. There are many positions that require neither breadth nor depth and that is fine. If you are in position to mentor people just a year after you entered the field, then the field is too easy and new. I mean, of course any good college graduate can do big data or artificial intelligence. Why would not they? They are best equipped to do math heavy things and they are already adults. Ability to confidently bullshit after 3 months of learning is not the only way how to be a good developer.
You measure extroversion there. Good introverted developers exist too - in fact developers be more introverted then general population (there are stats on that). So do very good shy or humble developers. While real developers are on average nowhere near the nerd stereotype with social anxiety, plenty good developers are a bit like that (They dont talk much unless they know you a bit).
> WTF! why is not documenting stuff acceptable where you work?
What does that have to do with blogging? I said they dont like writing. I did not said they don't write documentation or comments when needed. How did you managed to twist "not liking to write" in context of blogs to "maintainable software"?
For that matter, real documentation, the one that is targeted at users, is written by technical writers mostly. Developers job is to explain it to writer - it is mostly that docs are more then full time jobs and good technical writer are really better at explaining stuff.
>
How did you managed to twist "measure skills and contributions instead of projecting cool" to "doing the same thing dozens years"? Seriously.
The worst developer out there is is the one that does not do tasks that he does not like. You seem to treat it like the norm and assume that if someone does not visibly loudly jump up and down then he is going to slack it or something.
I don't think it is possible to know everything there is to know about application servers in three years. There are many positions that require neither breadth nor depth and that is fine. If you are in position to mentor people just a year after you entered the field, then the field is too easy and new. I mean, of course any good college graduate can do big data or artificial intelligence. Why would not they? They are best equipped to do math heavy things and they are already adults. Ability to confidently bullshit after 3 months of learning is not the only way how to be a good developer.