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Re:New law bans California employers from asking applicants ... by syshum on Wednesday October 18, 2017 @07:57PM (#15504344)
I dont disagree with much of what you said, I am mainly speaking out against the pay gap myth.

As far as disclosing pay, I alway deflect it and treat the question as them asking me what my salary expectations are, which likely ends up doing the same thing, but I dont think I have ever told a company what my salary was at a previous job

My current employer never asked, they said "this job pays X per year" did get a small increase over that first offer but not alot.

At this point in my career though (17 years in) I focus less on raw salary and more on working environment, I would rather take a lower salary to have a care free easy environment than make 15% more but have a high stress high demanding employer. Been there done that... not for me.

Re:New law bans California employers from asking applicants ... by whostolemyhat on Thursday October 19, 2017 @08:13AM (#15507200)
> I am mainly speaking out against the pay gap myth

I'm sure you're very smart and know better than all[1] the current[2] research[3].

[1] https://www.equalityhumanrights.com/en/publication-download/...

[2] https://www.accenture.com/gb-en/gender-equality-research-201...

[3] https://www.strath.ac.uk/business/research/research/highligh...

Re:New law bans California employers from asking applicants ... by Sacho on Thursday October 19, 2017 @09:27AM (#15507647)
[1] - this is a good report, but it uses a different definition of "gender pay gap" than parent - it does not analyze a "pay gap" for the same position/same experience(i.e. gender discrimination), but rather the aggregated difference in payments men and women receive for their work, which are affected by a multitude of factors(referenced in the study) - men working more, full-time, longer careers, different types of jobs, etc..

[2] - there are no sources or data analysis in their report, it's just infographics. Even then, their definition of the gender pay gap is similar to [1]:

"The report flags a clear risk, however: the choices that young women undergrads are making now are setting them up to enter the workforce with fewer digital skills, less mentoring advice and lower interest in pursuing high-paying jobs, compared with their male peers. "

"Adding to this imbalance is the fact that women are much less likely than men to have paid work (50 percent and 76 percent, respectively). This contributes to a hidden pay gap that increases the economic inequities between women and men. Based on the hidden pay gap, our research shows that for every $100 a woman earns, a man earns $258. Since women are usually responsible for the bulk of unpaid work, such as child care and housekeeping, the effects of the hidden pay gap for them are immense."

[3] - link to report is dead

Re:New law bans California employers from asking applicants ... by syshum on Thursday October 19, 2017 @12:55PM (#15509518)
At a minimum it does appear I have a better ability to read and understand what I am reading because none of those sources refute what i stated.

Number 1 is not comparing Equal Work and experiance, infact one of their summary bullet points is how part time women earn less than Full Time men... ummm yea. Part time people earn less than Full Time people.. That is not a earth shattering fact nor it is a symptom of sexism

They also point out that Part time women earn MORE than part time men...

Further most of the study looks at Overall wages in general with out comparing actual job roles to job role. This is a general misdirection often used by people that want to invent sexism where there is none. The fact that women often choose careers in fields that are traditionally lowering paying like Social Work, or Teaching is not a symptom of sexism

Number 2 is not a study

Number 3 is 404 page not found