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Re:Facebook and Google Helped Anti-Refugee Campaign in Swing... by te_chris on Wednesday October 18, 2017 @08:16AM (#15498438)
God, the moral equivocations you have to go through to get to such a puritanical humanist outcome must be quite something.

'Treat all people as people' is exactly the culture that allows these assholes to become POTUS. By not acknowledging the danger of some views you allow it to fester and, ironically, become a great threat to the safety of other humans/people.

Re:Facebook and Google Helped Anti-Refugee Campaign in Swing... by heneryville on Wednesday October 18, 2017 @08:37AM (#15498605)
It doesn't take any moral equivocations at all. Immanuel Kant points it out as one of 3 moral principles that are always true, regardless of conditions. [1]

Once you accept a moral system that justifies no longer treating human beings as people, you've allowed yourself a system that can justify anything. Look at every genocide of the past century; they all start with classifying a group of people as sub-human and worthy of discrimination.

That is a view to be fought, not descended to.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Categorical_imperative#The_Sec...

Re:Facebook and Google Helped Anti-Refugee Campaign in Swing... by mgkimsal on Wednesday October 18, 2017 @08:50AM (#15498683)
> Look at every genocide of the past century; they all start with classifying a group of people as sub-human and worthy of discrimination.

Seems like those 'other' groups were generally defined by biological characteristics, not ideologies, no? I guess the 'anti-communist' movement would fall under ideology, not biology, but the majority of examples I can think of that you're alluding to have to do with biology, no?

Re:Facebook and Google Helped Anti-Refugee Campaign in Swing... by pjc50 on Wednesday October 18, 2017 @10:35AM (#15499469)
The "cultural revolution" and Cambodia's "Year Zero" were explicitly ideological.
Re:Facebook and Google Helped Anti-Refugee Campaign in Swing... by heneryville on Wednesday October 18, 2017 @10:13AM (#15499296)
The Cambodian genocide had a definite ideological side, as well as the repression of Kulaks [1]. I'm not sure why it's not traditionally listed as a genocide since it's effects would squarely place it somewhere in the top 5.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dekulakization

Re:Facebook and Google Helped Anti-Refugee Campaign in Swing... by yjftsjthsd-h on Wednesday October 18, 2017 @09:59AM (#15499163)
> biological characteristics, not ideologies, no?

No. "Jewish" isn't biological, although there is some correlation, and America's red scare was soundly ideological.

Re:Facebook and Google Helped Anti-Refugee Campaign in Swing... by mgkimsal on Wednesday October 18, 2017 @02:32PM (#15501681)
"I guess the 'anti-communist' movement would fall under ideology"

I would think that's your 'red scare' unless you're talking about something else.

The "jewish" one - thinking specifically of ww2 - it definitely was more of a biological component, as "how much" you were jewish, and from what lineage, made a difference. "jewish" is both cultural and may have a racial/biological component (imu).

Re:Facebook and Google Helped Anti-Refugee Campaign in Swing... by zimpenfish on Wednesday October 18, 2017 @10:11AM (#15499277)
> Once you accept a moral system that justifies [slippery slope]

Quick question: does anyone defending the racists, sexists, homophobes, etc., have any other argument than "SLIPPERY SLOPE!!!"?

Re:Facebook and Google Helped Anti-Refugee Campaign in Swing... by mhneu on Wednesday October 18, 2017 @08:31AM (#15498565)
It's actually even worse than you say... It's not just that failing to acknowledge hate allows racist threats to fester. Failing to acknowledge hate allows outside groups -- whether other countries or the very wealthy -- to inflame hate to achieve their quite different goals (weaken liberal democracy, tax cuts for themselves).
Re:Facebook and Google Helped Anti-Refugee Campaign in Swing... by Tyrek on Wednesday October 18, 2017 @09:47AM (#15499081)
And acknowledging hate apparently allows the haters to become POTUS, and subsequently "weaken liberal democracy, tax cuts for themselves". You have to admit, that skews the calculation somewhat.
Re:Facebook and Google Helped Anti-Refugee Campaign in Swing... by koolba on Wednesday October 18, 2017 @08:34AM (#15498582)
I’d argue the danger of shutting down conversations you don’t agree with is much worse in the long run.
Re:Facebook and Google Helped Anti-Refugee Campaign in Swing... by prostoalex on Thursday October 19, 2017 @02:23AM (#15505834)
How do you formalize such acknowledgements? Majority vote? Appointed thought leaders?