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Re:Just own the damn robots by Aeolun on Wednesday October 18, 2017 @05:10AM (#15497810)
I don't think there's a big difference in being replaced by a 'robot' from overseas or a robot that was built in the US.

Either way it means your value to society is gone.

Re:Just own the damn robots by wiz21c on Wednesday October 18, 2017 @05:58AM (#15497957)
>> Either way it means your value to society is gone.

Your value to society is much more than that. You have value for friends, relatives. You also bring some idea that may be used by others. You may fix or build things that will be of value to someone else. Etc. This is very important.

The other argument is that if you reduce yourself to work, then you'll give credits to the argument that work is everything and that, for example, unemployment is to be ashamed of.

Re:Just own the damn robots by speleding on Wednesday October 18, 2017 @07:08AM (#15498147)
I agree that "Value to society" != "Value to the economy". But the value to the economy is what determines your wages in large part.
Re:Just own the damn robots by wiz21c on Wednesday October 18, 2017 @07:23AM (#15498204)
Yep, my answer was specifically against what you say :

>>> what determines your wages in large part.

The wages should not be that important anymore. That would prevent capital from being predatory. How we achieve that, I dunno, universal income ? maybe... maybe not. But IMHO, if we continue to think wages == beginning of everything, it certainly won't change.

Re:Just own the damn robots by humanrebar on Wednesday October 18, 2017 @07:17AM (#15498181)
> Your value to society is much more than that.

That may be true, but it's more of a statement of faith than an objective truth.

Since all the things you bring up are performance-based (socially successful, successful inventor, etc.), it's also a bit of a sideways move from "how important is your job". It also leaves open the possibility that people can be net negatives to society, so it doesn't really help individuals feel actualized.