There's No Fire Alarm for Artificial General Intelligence

Re:There's No Fire Alarm for Artificial General Intelligence by nurettin on Wednesday October 18, 2017 @03:31AM (#15497520)

Since Wittgenstein, Umberto Eco, Roland Barthes? How will you improve your knowledge and understanding of concepts if you don't argue in order to find out the best way of expressing them? Common sense is not a substitute for knowledge. Blanket statements and short dismissals are not a way of furthering our understanding of inference engines and whether subjective experience is required for intelligence and how to quantify that subjective experience.

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Re:There's No Fire Alarm for Artificial General Intelligence by johncolanduoni on Wednesday October 18, 2017 @09:19AM (#15498870)

If we had to preface every inquiry with a philosophical debate on everything semi-related to the subject at hand we’d get nowhere (including within philosophy itself). Should all math papers include a section where they argue about why one should use ZFC vs IZF or type theory because that decision might have impact on the matter at hand?

Blanket statements and short dismissals are great when their content is “that’s an interesting topic but not necessarily what everyone is trying to discuss right now.” Discussions on AI risk may not be augmented by understanding of subjective experience, or may require developments that cannot be acquired via even another 100 years of navel gazing on the subject. You’ve not even attempted to justify why this would be the case, and instead started complaining right off the bat that nobody had the inclination to immediately discuss your favorite tie-in to the subject immediately.

You’ll notice that people were actually happy to talk about consciousness once you brought it up, and probably would have been even happier to do so if you didn’t start off with such a curmudgeonly tone and spend a bunch of time accusing everyone of intellectual dishonesty because their interests differ from yours.

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Re:There's No Fire Alarm for Artificial General Intelligence by nurettin on Wednesday October 18, 2017 @12:40PM (#15500600)

Well, I've explained in an above comment why I think consciousness is directly proportional to intelligence, and I was pretty content with the conversation so far, actually.

I'm happy that you feel you are so progressive in multiple disciplines and an expert on online behavior. If you think what I said is off-topic, that's just your opinion, man.

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