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Re:Just own the damn robots by visarga on Tuesday October 17, 2017 @11:20PM (#15496652)
> 5) Intuitive leaps. e.g. Rubics cube.

You're trolling, right? Intuitive leaps are the bread and butter of neural nets.

Re:Just own the damn robots by arichard123 on Wednesday October 18, 2017 @04:06AM (#15497607)
No, I wasn't trolling. I think we have a different concept of what an intuitive leap is. A neural net, as far as my understanding goes, needs training in the field that it makes decisions in. I think you believe that process itself contains intuitive leaps. Neural nets trained to walk develop weird walking styles, and I think that you think that is evidence of an intuitive leap. If that's what you mean, I would disagree.

You train it to walk, and it won't understand how to climb. You train it to climb on a climbing wall and it won't understand that it can't climb on glass, or string, or a waterfall without additional training.

Whereas you and I wouldn't need to try and fail to climb a waterfall. We would just know it isn't going to work. We would also understand, without having tested it, that those climbing skills would enable us to climb a tree, or a rope net, or ladder.

We might even be able to make a judgement about how well we could climb each before disaster.

If I were wrong on this, and I could see an AI trained to do X and then apply it to Y then it would cause me to review my beliefs on AI.

Re:Just own the damn robots by justinjlynn on Tuesday October 17, 2017 @11:28PM (#15496683)
In fact, one might argue that's all they do -- depending on how one defines "intuition".
Re:Just own the damn robots by goatlover on Wednesday October 18, 2017 @04:53AM (#15497741)
In a vary narrow sense, sure. But humans are great at generalizing across different domains, and finding new connections and patterns.