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Re:Tech’s Troubling New Trend: Diversity Is in Your Head by Zhenya on Monday October 16, 2017 @11:47PM (#15488538)
" and who deserve to work in tech as much as anyone"

Is working at a "tech" company, a social benefit that we should be "doling" out evenly to all groups as a reward? What does that mean "deserves to work in tech"?

The only measure why anyone gets to work anywhere is they have the skills and mental ability to perform , at the minimum, the necessary tasks. We should simply be ensuring that we are not systematically biased against any candidates as to hire the best possible workforce.

Re:Tech’s Troubling New Trend: Diversity Is in Your Head by freedomben on Tuesday October 17, 2017 @12:50AM (#15488742)
I agree with you, but there are many who believe that a person has a right to a job, and that it is fundamentally unfair for one person to have a job that is better than another. They also believe that basing employment on merit is an anti-pattern, and that it is not fair that some people have educational and employment opportunities that others do not have, purely as a result of their parent and/or birth situation. I worked with a guy who would argue that the entire society should reap the reward because without the provisions from society (roads, structure, etc) the business would not be possible.
Re:Tech’s Troubling New Trend: Diversity Is in Your Head by mcbruiser3 on Tuesday October 17, 2017 @01:52PM (#15493045)
but the entire society DOES reap rewards, in the form of taxes on profit and contribution to the progress of mankind.
Re:Tech’s Troubling New Trend: Diversity Is in Your Head by vbuwivbiu on Tuesday October 17, 2017 @12:43AM (#15488720)
You seem to be unaware of feedback loops.
Re:Tech’s Troubling New Trend: Diversity Is in Your Head by Zhenya on Tuesday October 17, 2017 @01:35AM (#15488891)
Please explain: 1) what you mean 2) how you derived that I am not aware of feedback loops.
Re:Tech’s Troubling New Trend: Diversity Is in Your Head by brighteyes on Monday October 16, 2017 @11:42PM (#15488506)
The article is basically a response to Apple's recent drama, and claims it is part of a trend, with no evidence.

It would actually be interesting if it were true, but I've seen literally nothing to support that aside from this one anecdote.

My guess is that the article is coming from a place of, "it would be horrible if this happened, let's scare people about it so that this one case doesn't become a trend."

Re:Tech’s Troubling New Trend: Diversity Is in Your Head by sonabinu on Monday October 16, 2017 @11:47PM (#15488542)
I think you are right! I am curious about the research behind this one. I do see a lot of tech companies consciously looking for all kinds of diversity - gender, sexual orientation, varied college majors, different cultural backgrounds etc.
Re:Tech’s Troubling New Trend: Diversity Is in Your Head by freedomben on Tuesday October 17, 2017 @12:42AM (#15488714)
I think I agree with what the author is saying, but I also think diversity "in your head" is pretty important too, even if it is difficult to measure (as the author points out).

We're getting to a point where people of different political orientations won't even talk to each other anymore. People with different religious beliefs won't even serve one another as customers. There's people who won't even talk to their family anymore over politics!

Tech is becoming that way too. I have worked with hundreds of people and I can only think of one Conservative I worked with. The rest were either Libertarian (~20%) or Progressive (~80%). As nice and comfortable as an echo chamber can be, I see this as net negative. I think this is a real problem.

Sadly I don't have any solutions to offer though, because it's obviously inappropriate to ask someone about their political views in an interview. I've just been trying really hard to listen (and it is hard sometimes). If enough people start listening on all sides, I think it will make a difference.

Re:Tech’s Troubling New Trend: Diversity Is in Your Head by dk28 on Tuesday October 17, 2017 @12:33AM (#15488682)
you can get banned here on this site for saying what you think. dark times, fools in charge
Re:Tech’s Troubling New Trend: Diversity Is in Your Head by dang on Tuesday October 17, 2017 @11:10AM (#15491571)
Re:Tech’s Troubling New Trend: Diversity Is in Your Head by freedomben on Tuesday October 17, 2017 @12:46AM (#15488731)
FWIW, I haven't yet seen anyone banned for having an incorrect opinion, so long as it's communicated respectfully. You will get down voted into oblivion tho
Re:Tech’s Troubling New Trend: Diversity Is in Your Head by dk28 on Tuesday October 17, 2017 @01:07AM (#15488811)
you haven't seen exactly because they were banned and their comments hidden. Everyone who has an opinion different from the gender/racial what not equality BS get banned. Fools are running the world and sites like this