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Re:The real roots of early city states may rip up the textbooks by forapurpose on Saturday October 14, 2017 @09:21PM (#15475330)
> it is after all the definition of government

It's necessary for government (more specifically, at least for one context, a definition of sovereignty is a monopoly on violence and justice).

But the definition is much more than that. It's also collective decision-making. I don't follow the law - even ones I disagree with - and pay my taxes because I'm coerced, but because I believe very strongly in the rule of law, I respect the decisions of my fellow citizens - even ones I disagree with, and I'm proud to participate.

Re:The real roots of early city states may rip up the textbooks by JoBrad on Sunday October 15, 2017 @08:40AM (#15476868)
But if you don’t believe in it, you are coerced, either by being evicted or forced to comply.
Re:The real roots of early city states may rip up the textbooks by xj9 on Sunday October 15, 2017 @11:58AM (#15477662)
it is still coercive because you don't have the option to opt-out and you were never asked to opt-in. you may not comply because of coercion, but if you decide you disagree a do not comply there are plenty of guns waiting to make sure you change your mind.
Re:The real roots of early city states may rip up the textbooks by forapurpose on Sunday October 15, 2017 @02:26PM (#15478387)
> you were never asked to opt-in

I certainly was. My neighbors and I elected someone to represent us on the matter, there was a public debate about the law before it was passed and I told my representative how I wanted them to vote, and our representative's job is up for review in a year.