Re:Tesla fires hundreds from headquarters, factory
by jryle70 on Saturday October 14, 2017 @12:35AM
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I don't know if OP meant stack ranking, but I've definitely seen approx 20% annual turnover at a well known consulting firm, by design. Either you go up or you are out. Not stack ranking, just performance review. Cut throat environment, but the upside is the firm is able to keep the very sharp ones. Also the alumni usually end up at other firms that can potentially become future clients. Seems to work very well for this consulting company.
Re:Tesla fires hundreds from headquarters, factory
by kwhitefoot on Saturday October 14, 2017 @02:18AM
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> Seems to work very well for this consulting company.
But is it working for the rest of us?
Re:Tesla fires hundreds from headquarters, factory
by jryle70 on Saturday October 14, 2017 @09:01AM
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Maybe. Maybe not. Those who chose to work for that firm know full well what they're getting into. They hope to make it. 20% of them won't. Not much different than startups?
Re:Tesla fires hundreds from headquarters, factory
by tedsanders on Saturday October 14, 2017 @02:05AM
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The top three management consulting firms are ranked #1, #3, and #11 on Glassdoor's best places to work. Clearly their up-or-out policies aren't seen as horrible by their own employees. And as a consultant who works at one of those firms, I've never seen anyone sabotage someone else's performance, not once. In fact, you are probably rated best when you help support those around you. Certainly the policy causes stress, but these firms are top destinations for MBAs regardless.
https://www.glassdoor.com/Award/Best-Places-to-Work-LST_KQ0,...
Re:Tesla fires hundreds from headquarters, factory
by semi-extrinsic on Saturday October 14, 2017 @03:38AM
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People with MBAs have a very different mindset from auto workers. When you've had "this is an optimal system" drilled into your head at school by people you've been told are very smart and you should look up to, you're probably going to think it's a good system. Especially when you know that the probability of harsh financial consequences for yourself and your family from this policy is essentially zero.
The situation for auto workers is very different on both points.
Everything about these statements is wrong. Take it from someone who worked at Microsoft before and after they finally smartened up and ditched stack ranking: it's horrible. It creates an atmosphere of paranoia, where people sabotage each other at great cost to the company instead of working together towards common goals. Worse, contra your claim that it weeds out the worst and lets the best rise to the top, what actually happens is the best quickly get sick of the bullshit and leave, while the ones rising to the top are the ones most adept at politics and gaming the system.
Stack ranking has no redeeming qualities whatsoever, and if that's really what Tesla is doing it's enough alone to make me more bearish on them. It's that bad.