Re:Two scientists quietly revolutionising the study and prac...
by che_shirecat on Friday October 13, 2017 @02:22PM
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by committing atrocities, you become the evil, even if you have an utilitarian excuse. saving more lives is ultimately meaningless as evil will always exist and people will always die as a result of it but the one thing we have complete agency in is our own actions and that will ultimately be what we will be held accountable for
Re:Two scientists quietly revolutionising the study and prac...
by Chris2048 on Sunday October 15, 2017 @06:04PM
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I'm not religious, I only care about concepts such as "evil" so far as they are semantically useful lingual constructs.
> we have complete agency in is our own actions and that will ultimately be what we will be held accountable for
By who, and for what; consequence or intention? A utilitarian justification seems to me as good as any.
Re:Two scientists quietly revolutionising the study and prac...
by che_shirecat on Tuesday October 17, 2017 @02:25PM
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Was my comment religious in any way? There's multiple ways that one could be held accountable for crimes against humanity, either by your government and laws or by the international community. There's really no point considering the issue from a nakedly utilitarian justification - why would you care about how many people you save then? If it's for their economic output or because of economic damage, why not just kill the poor or enslave the populace? Your stance is pure sociopathy and as such we obviously have no room for a reasoned discussion.
Re:Two scientists quietly revolutionising the study and prac...
by banku_brougham on Sunday October 15, 2017 @08:11AM
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“We had to destroy the village in order to save it,” is a justification that rings hollow.
Why not? If good men forfeit their lives to fight evil, why can't evil men be forced to forfeit their lives for the same?
> use it to justify anything
Then the issue is the "narrative" is false. We just have to improve standards of proof - if there is legitimate reason to believe lives would be saved, why not?