Re:Gov. Jerry Brown signs AB168: bans employers from asking ...
by octothorp3 on Friday October 13, 2017 @09:47AM
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Having not read the specific wording of the law I am
curious, couldn't an employer just fulfill their legal obligation by saying the salary range is 1 to 300k dollars?
Re:Gov. Jerry Brown signs AB168: bans employers from asking ...
by lawnchair_larry on Friday October 13, 2017 @10:21AM
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No, because it has to be true. All companies have their own scales, and they would probably get sued for not accurately disclosing those. There are also exceptions, which would go outside of the range and invite scrutiny/lawsuits as soon as a minority discovers one single white/Indian male whose salary exceeds the stated target range for "senior engineer".
It's one thing for employers to voluntarily provide a good faith range, which some will, but another when they expose themselves to a gender discrimination lawsuit by being wrong.
Also, everybody is going to insist on max(range).
This law seems to create a lot of legal landmines that I don't think will be beneficial. High earners can volunteer their salary anyway.
Re:Gov. Jerry Brown signs AB168: bans employers from asking ...
by paulddraper on Thursday October 12, 2017 @11:21PM
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Why?
My father-in-law was just embezzled by his accountant. It's mostly been spent, so he will get pennies in the dollar back. (I'm not well versed in legal matters...I had no idea crime could be so profitable, even after you get caught.)
It sucks that he got screwed over, but it'll suck more if the next guy has the same experience.
There must be some kinds of questions employers can be permitted to ask to help this?
Re:Gov. Jerry Brown signs AB168: bans employers from asking ...
by paulddraper on Friday October 13, 2017 @11:04AM
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"Accountant" is perhaps an overstatement. It was a very small business (<10 employees).
The position was combination of secretary, controller, and office manager. The person did payroll, made travel arragements, paid the rent, etc. Previously, the IT admin did some of these; he was the one to notice something was wrong.
They hire a CPA service for the complicated tax stuff.
Now that's going to create one hell of a mess. Someone didn't think that through.
It's one thing for employers to voluntarily provide a good faith range, which some will, but another when they expose themselves to a gender discrimination lawsuit by being wrong.
Also, everybody is going to insist on max(range).
This law seems to create a lot of legal landmines that I don't think will be beneficial. High earners can volunteer their salary anyway.
My father-in-law was just embezzled by his accountant. It's mostly been spent, so he will get pennies in the dollar back. (I'm not well versed in legal matters...I had no idea crime could be so profitable, even after you get caught.)
It sucks that he got screwed over, but it'll suck more if the next guy has the same experience.
There must be some kinds of questions employers can be permitted to ask to help this?
The position was combination of secretary, controller, and office manager. The person did payroll, made travel arragements, paid the rent, etc. Previously, the IT admin did some of these; he was the one to notice something was wrong.
They hire a CPA service for the complicated tax stuff.
I am admittedly not well versed in this.