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Re:Israel Hacked Kaspersky, Then Tipped NSA Its Tools Had Be... by lern_too_spel on Wednesday October 11, 2017 @12:37AM (#15447318)
How is the Lavabit case an instance of the government misusing its power? The government got a court order to monitor the metadata of an account of a user that they had probable cause to link to a crime. (The alleged criminal had already admitted to the crime.)

Lavabit had previously complied with search warrants to obtain data for users suspected of dealing in child pornography. https://www.docketalarm.com/cases/Maryland_District_Court/1-...

When Lavabit delayed implementing the monitoring they had agreed to, losing forever the ability to collect data generated during that time, only then did the government effectively put them out of business.

Re:Israel Hacked Kaspersky, Then Tipped NSA Its Tools Had Be... by wallace_f on Wednesday October 11, 2017 @01:02AM (#15447415)
Well, fair point. My bias may come from the fact that I see NSA domestic surveillance as grossly unconstitutional as well as an undemocratically implemented abuse of state power. I suppose it's useful to ask at what point can the State grant an order that is illegitimate, if this isn't one of those cases? If Putin has a court order drafted to do his dirty work does that make it any more legitimate?

Maybe Snowden broke laws, but every single person breaks some frivolous laws every year of their life that they can be prosecuted for, see The Intercept source I posted on this.