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Re:The Corrosion of High School Debate by pavel_lishin on Tuesday October 10, 2017 @01:36PM (#15443711)
> If someone is trying to spread you or put an independent voting issue on something inane, critique that entire style of debate.

Doing this in LD might fly, but in CX it's basically an obnoxious way to throw the round. (Which I did back in high school, repeatedly, with as much success as you'd expect.)

Re:The Corrosion of High School Debate by linuxps2 on Tuesday October 10, 2017 @01:41PM (#15443759)
By CX I assume you mean policy and no, it's really effective. I did it for 4 years and it was rare if my partner and I didn't place and one of us nearly always won a speaker award.

Nuke War impacts? yeah, I'm running Compassion Fatigue K. On AFF you better believe I'm running a kritikal case with 'dismantling patriarchy through discussion' as my primary voting issue against the ridiculous Mead cards the neg was going to bring out.

All I'm saying is that it certainly can be effective as this is what I did and found great success both locally and in the national circuit

Re:The Corrosion of High School Debate by pavel_lishin on Tuesday October 10, 2017 @01:56PM (#15443855)
I guess I was a much shittier debater than I thought, and I absolutely was not a good debater. I don't think I ever saw this type of thing work - maybe our schools were just in completely different skill tiers.
Re:The Corrosion of High School Debate by Gaelan on Tuesday October 10, 2017 @02:05PM (#15443944)
Also judges in different circuits are probably more tolerant of different things.
Re:The Corrosion of High School Debate by ngoldbaum on Tuesday October 10, 2017 @10:28PM (#15446892)
It totally depends on what the judging pool looks like. In a different state your strategy would have worked fine.
Re:The Corrosion of High School Debate by linuxps2 on Thursday October 12, 2017 @07:31PM (#15462212)
Yeah my experience was mostly limited to the national circuit and GA where the judges were typically WestGA, Emory, or UGA debaters (or debate coaches) trying to make extra money on weekends when they didn't have a college tournament
Re:The Corrosion of High School Debate by throwawayknecht on Tuesday October 10, 2017 @03:32PM (#15444676)
This is the exact opposite of my (now two decade old) experience. We had a team (honestly, one guy) who did the most ridiculous meta Ks and the LDers were almost scornful of it. Their debates were ideological and drew from a much wider range of sources, but there was virtually no meta involved.