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Re:Debian 9.2 released by marindez on Monday October 09, 2017 @05:35AM (#15432490)
As someone who hasn't used CentOS much, when I've had to use it I've found the package selection (packages/versions) to be lacking, requiring me to use one of the countless 3rd party repos that may or may not contain what I need
Re:Debian 9.2 released by tehwalrus on Monday October 09, 2017 @06:22AM (#15432676)
I've known people in authority positions who have insisted on CentOS because "red hat certification", "tested for enterprise" etc, whose first setup step is to enable EPEL and a bunch of 3rd party repos.

They don't seem to see how this negates the advantage of using a "well tested, enterprise grade" distro!

I much prefer Debian (for servers and development machines) as a good intersection between "up to date" and "stable".

Re:Debian 9.2 released by tormeh on Monday October 09, 2017 @10:58AM (#15434307)
Well, epel has extra packages. They are by definition not essential to the functioning of the OS. Why you wouldn't want those from a rapidly updating or rolling-release repo is something I don't understand.
Re:Debian 9.2 released by tehwalrus on Monday October 09, 2017 @11:40AM (#15434775)
EPEL not being enabled by default I find a little weird, but sure it's not the end of the world.

The thing I find strange is that the people I'm talking about will happily run code from random 3rd party repos (providing PHP 7.0 or similar), and copy/paste repo key fingerprints from the web without blinking, while steadfastly refusing to use an OS with such packages included and tested in the official repos "because security/quality/enterprise".

Re:Debian 9.2 released by lima on Monday October 09, 2017 @11:43AM (#15434801)
Agreed on the third party repos, but EPEL is fine. Fedora/EPEL, while unsupported, is a Red Hat project. It's basically the upstream release for RHEL, and many Red Hat employees contribute. They have a really good QA process too.
Re:Debian 9.2 released by vbezhenar on Monday October 09, 2017 @07:42AM (#15433016)
EPEL is a must. Also I'm using official nginx and postgres repositories for latest releases. Never used other repositories.
Re:Debian 9.2 released by jlgaddis on Monday October 09, 2017 @05:42AM (#15432518)
If you want to run the latest, greatest, bleeding edge version of $foo, CentOS may not be for you.
Re:Debian 9.2 released by tooltalk on Monday October 09, 2017 @05:53AM (#15432568)
Well, I noticed that CentOS/RHEL distro's have quite old versions of everything, but Debian stable doesn't seem all that cutting edge either. I find myself reaching out to backports and even sid to get what I need at times.

At my new job, we recently had that debate -- and I was quickly overruled for recommending CentOS/RHEL. My employer is a Java shop, I can almost always find rpm and deb pkg's for most stuff we need.

Re:Debian 9.2 released by rwmj on Monday October 09, 2017 @06:23AM (#15432680)
RHEL works by backporting bug fixes and new features into the old versions. Don't go by the version numbers, check the availability of features instead.
Re:Debian 9.2 released by deadbunny on Monday October 09, 2017 @06:32AM (#15432714)
Backporting features and not bumping versions is redicilous though, especially when that means v3.1 of upstream is different to v3.1 in your repo.
Re:Debian 9.2 released by pferde on Monday October 09, 2017 @07:06AM (#15432852)
You're just not their target audience. Others are willing to throw money at Red Hat for this "rediculousness", though.
Re:Debian 9.2 released by rwmj on Monday October 09, 2017 @06:40AM (#15432743)
RHT's market cap is over $20 billion today so that says it's providing real value to customers.
Re:Debian 9.2 released by jlgaddis on Monday October 09, 2017 @06:35AM (#15432721)
FWIW, you can find newer versions of some software packages via "Software Collections".
Re:Debian 9.2 released by scbrg on Monday October 09, 2017 @05:49AM (#15432546)
And neither is Debian (stable). But given that they're often used for the same purpose (servers), it's not that irrational to compare them. Having a larger, supported package selection (even if it's a bit old) may be a good thing, and relevant when you choose your distro.

For the record: I have no idea how the package selection compares between CentOS and Debian - I've been firmly in the Debian camp since forever, and stay there mostly for other reasons, of which laziness is the most important one.

Re:Debian 9.2 released by baruch on Monday October 09, 2017 @05:44AM (#15432525)
It's not just the latest. Debian stable doesn't have the latest but it does have a larger selection of official packages.