News for hackers. Stuff that matters.
Re:Ask HN: Best hard scifi AI novels? by d-crane on Sunday October 08, 2017 @11:38AM (#15428590)
Greg Egan's Diaspora starts with the details of what it's like for a new AI to be brought into existence in a society of advanced AIs, and jumps off from there. Definitely one of the more original hard sci-fi novels I've read.
Re:Ask HN: Best hard scifi AI novels? by RachelF on Sunday October 08, 2017 @10:10PM (#15431159)
Egan is very original and his novels are definitely "hard sci-fi" in that they make you think.

However, I regard him as a bad writer, as his dialogue is very bad, his characters hollow and his plot progression is rather jumpy.

Read him for his stimulating ideas, but not the way he tells the story.

Re:Ask HN: Best hard scifi AI novels? by mansr on Sunday October 08, 2017 @12:09PM (#15428724)
His Permutation City is also good.
Re:Ask HN: Best hard scifi AI novels? by Udik on Sunday October 08, 2017 @02:01PM (#15429199)
Permutation City is probably the best hard sci-fi novel I've ever read.
Re:Ask HN: Best hard scifi AI novels? by Aron on Sunday October 08, 2017 @08:42PM (#15430847)
There was some page towards the end I remember being hopelessly lost and never recovered.
Re:Ask HN: Best hard scifi AI novels? by Udik on Monday October 09, 2017 @03:00AM (#15432013)
You mean yourself or the plot? I think that in the third act Egan added some weaker elements both as a corollary of the idea being explored and as a way of introducing some traditional action, in a novel that is otherwise mostly the setup of an elaborate thought experiment.

Nonetheless, I think the result is extraordinary, because the problems posed, the paradoxes highlighted, and some brilliant insights, are new and valid outside the fictional world created in the novel.