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Re:No Bitcoin-based protocol can handle more than 20M users ... by quadcore on Sunday October 08, 2017 @10:39AM (#15428368)
An idea would be to not use one blockchain but a tree of blockchains. Say one blockchain is attributed to London so that if you make a transaction in that blockchain it should be quite fast. Now you want to send money to bangkok, the transaction bubbles up and you get the idea.

edit: obviously someone got that idea before; my point was meant to be that it would be a shame to use a centralised solution like the services of private companies.

Re:No Bitcoin-based protocol can handle more than 20M users ... by ivoras on Sunday October 08, 2017 @10:44AM (#15428395)
You mean, just like banks are federated and communicate only occasionally? :) I mean, it's conceptually the same solution for the same sort of problem: slow propagation of data and the need to maintain (the illusion of a) single global ledger. For banks, it was much much slower in the past, they're fine now.
Re:No Bitcoin-based protocol can handle more than 20M users ... by pbreit on Sunday October 08, 2017 @12:01PM (#15428689)
Just because it's "like banks" doesn't mean it's invalid. That was my first impression, too when reading: can't we be slightly more on Layer 2?
Re:No Bitcoin-based protocol can handle more than 20M users ... by PKop on Sunday October 08, 2017 @03:29PM (#15429561)
The whole value proposition is that the currency's monetary policy isn't controlled by government, or corporate/political relationship that Federal reserve banks have currently.

If the structure models current banks in most ways except that the currency isn't in their control, then it will be a massive improvement.

Re:No Bitcoin-based protocol can handle more than 20M users ... by kalleboo on Monday October 09, 2017 @02:16AM (#15431872)
Replacing government politics with the politics of a handful of developers/miners/businessmen? (see the current debacle with bitcoin/cash/segwit/2x)
Re:No Bitcoin-based protocol can handle more than 20M users ... by PKop on Wednesday October 11, 2017 @06:17PM (#15454017)
Of course. Because in clear ways you are more sovereign individual within Bitcoin's politics than government politics. You can opt out, you can choose your politics, switching costs are much lower, therefore incentives to align with you are higher.
Re:No Bitcoin-based protocol can handle more than 20M users ... by kalleboo on Thursday October 12, 2017 @11:23AM (#15458633)
You can opt out of Bitcoin as long as it's unpopular as it is now. Zimbabweans also opted out of the Zimbabwe dollar which is why now what you really want there is a US dollar.
Re:No Bitcoin-based protocol can handle more than 20M users ... by Agebor on Sunday October 08, 2017 @10:47AM (#15428404)
https://cosmos.network/ and https://polkadot.io/ experiment with a similar ideas.
Re:No Bitcoin-based protocol can handle more than 20M users ... by augustl on Sunday October 08, 2017 @10:40AM (#15428376)
Wow, that's super interesting, I've never heard about something like that proposed before. Same protocol, but layered and sharded, basically.
Re:No Bitcoin-based protocol can handle more than 20M users ... by Buttes on Sunday October 08, 2017 @10:46AM (#15428400)
The Ethereum guys proposed something like this in a super long rambling document with lots of made up terminology [1]

https://github.com/ethereum/wiki/wiki/Sharding-FAQ

Re:No Bitcoin-based protocol can handle more than 20M users ... by AluminiumPoint on Sunday October 08, 2017 @10:47AM (#15428403)
Yeah! We can also do 'cross chain atomic swaps'; A trustless tx that allows two chains to agree on a price. Either both sides claim it, or the money is returned to its sender.
Re:No Bitcoin-based protocol can handle more than 20M users ... by corford on Sunday October 08, 2017 @01:26PM (#15429055)
There are quite a few projects working on "cross-chain" solutions:

https://cosmos.network

https://ark.io

https://omg.omise.co

And more

Re:No Bitcoin-based protocol can handle more than 20M users ... by NotUsingLinux on Sunday October 08, 2017 @10:45AM (#15428399)
Re:No Bitcoin-based protocol can handle more than 20M users ... by sudoscript on Sunday October 08, 2017 @10:53AM (#15428425)
Check out Ethereum's Plasma proposal: plasma.io. It's a similar concept. I'd describe it as tree of blockchains with MapReduce for state transitions and merkle trees for proofs.
Re:No Bitcoin-based protocol can handle more than 20M users ... by sitepodmatt on Sunday October 08, 2017 @10:55AM (#15428436)
Most people sending money to bkk the transaction fees are the least of their concerns.
Re:No Bitcoin-based protocol can handle more than 20M users ... by eximius on Sunday October 08, 2017 @02:32PM (#15429325)
That is literally the Ethereum scalability strategy called Plasma networks.