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Re:San Francisco Is Losing Its Great, Inexpensive Restaurants by tome on Friday October 06, 2017 @06:00AM (#15415600)
> the gender-imbalanced dating market (the imbalance hurting both men and women)

I'm curious about how an excess of men can hurt women in the dating market.

Re:San Francisco Is Losing Its Great, Inexpensive Restaurants by danieltillett on Friday October 06, 2017 @08:15AM (#15416165)
Too many men chasing too few women does not make for happy endings for anyone. Excessive competition in any market tends to create irrational behaviour on both sides.
Re:San Francisco Is Losing Its Great, Inexpensive Restaurants by velodrome on Friday October 06, 2017 @06:13AM (#15415627)
Agreed. If there are more men in the city, women should have more selection.

However, the diversity of men may be limited (e.g. they are all software engineers...). It would be like going to Baskin-Robbins and all they had was various types of strawberry ice cream.

Re:San Francisco Is Losing Its Great, Inexpensive Restaurants by jorvi on Friday October 06, 2017 @06:47AM (#15415744)
The old saying women have about dating at a technical university or engineering school still rings true: 'the odds are good but the goods are odd'
Re:San Francisco Is Losing Its Great, Inexpensive Restaurants by solatic on Friday October 06, 2017 @01:21PM (#15418490)
Dating markets with low signal-to-noise ratios, in the ice cream analogy, is like an ice cream shop that only offers a giant ice cream cone with no fewer than 100 scoops, and you only get to choose the visible scoop on top, the other scoops are completely random. So you try one, and you like that the first scoop is raspberry, but then you discover that the second scoop is Bertie-Bott's-Every-Flavor-Beans-Earwax flavored, and you throw the whole thing out in disgust. Next week, you try again, savor the raspberry again, are pleasantly delighted to find out that the second scoop is a mild lemon-meringue, and then hit icky artificial-medicinal-cherry on the third. So you throw it out again.

When you go back to the ice cream shop to demand some kind of control over what kind of ice cream flavors end up in your cone, the shop-owner apologizes and reveals that the reason why the other flavors are at random is because he doesn't actually scoop the ice cream, the giant ice cream cones actually arrive like that from the factory, and although 70% of the cones do come with some claims about which flavors are inside, 60% of those claims turn out to be false, so nobody pays attention to the label, and anyway here's another giant cone, maybe this one will turn out great and really be "your kind" of cone.

Re:San Francisco Is Losing Its Great, Inexpensive Restaurants by pjc50 on Friday October 06, 2017 @06:16AM (#15415635)
Increasingly desperate behaviour, high-pressure dating and a refusal to take no for an answer?
Re:San Francisco Is Losing Its Great, Inexpensive Restaurants by DonHopkins on Friday October 06, 2017 @08:05AM (#15416092)
Re:San Francisco Is Losing Its Great, Inexpensive Restaurants by ubik on Friday October 06, 2017 @08:14AM (#15416157)
bingo
Re:San Francisco Is Losing Its Great, Inexpensive Restaurants by solatic on Friday October 06, 2017 @12:51PM (#15418257)
In gender-imbalanced dating markets, the over-represented gender becomes increasingly more desperate in its dating strategies, due to lack of success. Desperation hurts honesty and worsens the signal-to-noise ratio.

When men are over-represented, true, women in general will find it easier to arrange dates. But those dates will, in general, be of lesser quality when men feel increasingly pressured to actively mask their flaws, in an attempt to stand out from other men in the dating market. Women then require more time, on average, to parse a potential partner's true personality and intentions, and develop trust. Requiring more time to develop trust raises the true cost for women of giving an individual suitor a chance.

(note: the prior paragraph is gendered because of context, but it also applies vice-versa in dating markets where women are over-represented compared to men, e.g. New York).

Re:San Francisco Is Losing Its Great, Inexpensive Restaurants by thundergolfer on Friday October 06, 2017 @06:12AM (#15415621)
Me too. Maybe the imbalance makes all the guys batty?
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Re:San Francisco Is Losing Its Great, Inexpensive Restaurants by rosser on Friday October 06, 2017 @07:16AM (#15415840)
> Anecdotally...

This sounds to me like nothing so much as confirmation bias. I've lived in SF for six years now, and gone on dozens of first (and far fewer, but still nonzero, subsequent) dates. While I do see some slight evidence for this notion, it's the exception, not the rule, in my experience.

That is to say, "the plural of anecdote is not data."

Re:San Francisco Is Losing Its Great, Inexpensive Restaurants by TorKlingberg on Friday October 06, 2017 @08:00AM (#15416067)
Please don't drag the discussion down to this level.