iOS 11's Misleading "Off-Ish" Setting for Radios Is Bad for User Security

Re:iOS 11's Misleading "Off-Ish" Setting for Radios Is Bad f... by firebolt327 on Thursday October 05, 2017 @10:47PM (#15414093)

This is not communicated and is completely bogus, do you expect users to "expand" the panel and read carefully the small text under which says "Not connected" and map it to, "hey this is me Apple, royally screwing with you, even though you wanted to turn off Wifi, and you just did that, I won't turn it off, I am gonna lie to you and keep eating your battery till your phone die"

That's exactly what happened to me when I was desperately trying to save battery and turn off services.

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Re:iOS 11's Misleading "Off-Ish" Setting for Radios Is Bad f... by cdmoyer on Thursday October 05, 2017 @11:19PM (#15414188)

You don't have to expand the panel or 3d touch or anything.

https://m.imgur.com/SSeZQUC

I'll admit that this behavior is what I want 99% of the time, so it also doesn't bother me.

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Re:iOS 11's Misleading "Off-Ish" Setting for Radios Is Bad f... by Too on Friday October 06, 2017 @12:16AM (#15414383)

Ehhhhh, so now "disconnected from ssid" + gray wifi-button means "wifi temporarily turned off"? That is not clearly communicated. At all.

I do think the new behavior is better for me as a user 99% of the time, but at the same time i also want to know what is happening and how to override it.

Silent mode on android shows how to do it correctly, there you get a popup when activating it asking for how long you want it to be silent. It has a few presets so you just need one extra tap. That is the correct behaviour, if that's to much for an Apple mind to handle, the very least they should do is to inform of the actual state with a more descriptive label.

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Re:iOS 11's Misleading "Off-Ish" Setting for Radios Is Bad f... by _jn on Friday October 06, 2017 @12:35AM (#15414453)

The communication isn't great, but the "off-ish" setting is visually distinct from the true off setting (the latter showing a struck-through icon.)

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Re:iOS 11's Misleading "Off-Ish" Setting for Radios Is Bad f... by matwood on Friday October 06, 2017 @08:57AM (#15416418)

While I agree that the UI is a bit subtle in the difference, Apple isn't trying to screw anyone. If you're really trying to save battery life, Airplane mode is the way to go. It totally turns off the wifi and the LTE radio (which is very battery draining).

I like this change because when I turn just wifi off it was always because of an acting up network. Now that I don't have to remember to turn it back on is a good thing. My guess is that Apple has a lot of data, and found that this behavior is what most people want.

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