Re:Amazon and Apple hit by EU tax crackdown
by jlebrech on Wednesday October 04, 2017 @06:25AM
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legal tax schemes are legal
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Re:Amazon and Apple hit by EU tax crackdown
by singularity2001 on Wednesday October 04, 2017 @07:04AM
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and amoral
Re:Amazon and Apple hit by EU tax crackdown
by runholm on Wednesday October 04, 2017 @07:09AM
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We can't run a society based on companies being moral. We need laws regulating it and in this case, it seems like the EU is actually enforcing them.
Re:Amazon and Apple hit by EU tax crackdown
by jlebrech on Wednesday October 04, 2017 @10:55AM
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there are plenty of immoral yet legal industries, for example porn and gun manufacture. morality is just a conservative-goodness.
Re:Amazon and Apple hit by EU tax crackdown
by kuschku on Wednesday October 04, 2017 @08:13AM
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Actually, that’s pretty much the point of the civil law system the EU uses, that the spirit of the law stands above the letter of the law, and if you violate the spirit of the law – even while abiding the letter of the law – you can be punished.
Re:Amazon and Apple hit by EU tax crackdown
by Stranger43 on Wednesday October 04, 2017 @11:48AM
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It's a bit simplistic a view the more complex reality is that the code civil(unlike the common law) doctrine have a "bonus pater"(or informed citizen) standard that puts an obligation on especially large(and supposedly competent) companies to proactively make sure they follow the law as it is not as they think it is.
I.E. apple's "but this guy down at the pub told us it was legal"* defence fails the bonus pater standard as apple highly paid legal council should have known better then accept it as a indication of actual law.
*In reality there was a unpublished letter from some politician, who did not actually have the authority to speak on irish tax law, to apple stating that Irish revenue would not challenge apple's claims about not owing Irish taxes on money in transit. though all evidence point to apple knowing full well that was not an indication that their tax sceme was legal.
Re:Amazon and Apple hit by EU tax crackdown
by temporalparts on Wednesday October 04, 2017 @08:14AM
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I agree that taxes are amoral, not a matter of moral consideration. Companies cannot be expected to pay more than legally required, as their competitors would be doing the same. It would be immoral to expect them to follow anything else but the legal requirement.
Re:Amazon and Apple hit by EU tax crackdown
by jlebrech on Wednesday October 04, 2017 @09:59AM
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having an accountant is basically a "tax scheme" because poorer businesses might not be able to afford it.
now scale that up to billions of dollars, and the accountant is now swiss. we should fix laws first so that loopholes like that cannot exist.