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Re:Facebook Lies by komon on Tuesday October 03, 2017 @11:06AM (#15392893)
Anecdote incoming: I've turned off every notification setting possible on my Facebook account. The issue is that every time they add a new notification "feature" it seems like they flip all of them back on again. All as if to say, "Everybody wants a daily/weekly rollup of what happened on Facebook! Subscribe everybody by default!"

So I feel the GP's pain, I've taken to marking them as spam as well because I know that my settings aren't guaranteed to stay where they are. It's not even in Facebook's best interest to try and keep my notification settings where they are.

Re:Facebook Lies by macNchz on Tuesday October 03, 2017 @01:01PM (#15393911)
For a long time I intentionally configured Facebook to only send me notifications by email and only when someone added me or tagged me, since I almost never actually signed in to see those things.

At some point or another they decided to expand this to include re-engagement garbage like "{{Some person you haven't interacted with in 10 years}} {{ commented on their status || uploaded a photo || added a video}}!", so now I've turned off everything but security alerts.

My current frustration is how they won't let you get notifications about new messages by email. I don't want the app, I don't want to 'delete' my account since we know it doesn't really remove anything and I'd rather retain a semblance of control, but I also don't want to leave the occasional person hanging who tries to contact me via Facebook Messenger, since people can still message you even if you mark yourself 'offline'.

I know this is completely intentional and designed to get me to install the Messenger app and look at their ads, but damn if it doesn't grind my gears. If I could go back to 2005 I never would have made a Facebook account to begin with.

Re:Facebook Lies by calvinv on Tuesday October 10, 2017 @12:19PM (#15443015)
just FYI, I never see ads on Messenger app
Re:Facebook Lies by NikolaeVarius on Tuesday October 03, 2017 @11:12AM (#15392932)
I've had notifications disabled for at least a year and have never had this happen.
Re:Facebook Lies by wiredfool on Tuesday October 03, 2017 @11:20AM (#15392973)
They're probably A/B testing it, and you're the control group.
Re:Facebook Lies by giancarlostoro on Tuesday October 03, 2017 @11:54AM (#15393280)
Or resetting those settings to try to get back some high earning users. Ignoring those they don't profit from.
Re:Facebook Lies by UweSchmidt on Tuesday October 03, 2017 @12:29PM (#15393629)
Or maybe observing country-specific laws and regulations
Re:Facebook Lies by rockinghigh on Wednesday October 04, 2017 @12:54AM (#15398342)
Same here. For at least 5 years.
Re:Facebook Lies by r00fus on Tuesday October 03, 2017 @11:37AM (#15393108)
The growth hacker mentality was cute when FB was a scrappy little startup. Now they're dominant, it's just creepy.
Re:Facebook Lies by mncharity on Tuesday October 03, 2017 @12:37PM (#15393705)
> cute when [...] was a scrappy little startup. Now they're dominant, it's just creepy.

Microsoft/Gates also had trouble with this. What is "business hardball" in a startup, can be illegal conduct in an almost-monopoly.

In a kitten, pouncing aggression is cute... in a liger, not so much. For the same behavior, you'd put it down.

Individuals can similarly fail to recognize transitions. "You can't do X." "But I've been doing X for years!" "Yes, but here you have relationship Y, so X is no longer ethical/legal."

Re:Facebook Lies by fapjacks on Saturday October 14, 2017 @07:58AM (#15471775)
In a liger. Indeed.
Re:Facebook Lies by teddyh on Tuesday October 03, 2017 @12:29PM (#15393631)
“Growth hacking” is always creepy.
Re:Facebook Lies by quadrangle on Tuesday October 03, 2017 @12:50PM (#15393827)
It was always creepy.