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Re:A glut of PhDs who can’t find academic jobs by analog31 on Sunday October 01, 2017 @11:55PM (#15381603)
Indeed, my parents put me through college, and I finished grad school with money in the bank thanks to the NSF.

At the time, the conventional wisdom was: Don't get a graduate degree unless somebody else is paying for it, or you are in a job that guarantees a salary bump for doing it. I don't think that's changed.

Re:A glut of PhDs who can’t find academic jobs by sjg007 on Monday October 02, 2017 @03:23AM (#15382189)
Unless you live in a high COL area where even NSF grant money isn’t enough.
Re:A glut of PhDs who can’t find academic jobs by analog31 on Monday October 02, 2017 @08:27AM (#15383279)
The NSF grant money wasn't paid directly to students. The departments still set the pay scale, and had to deal with COL disparities like all employers do. And if your prof couldn't support you, then you didn't work for that prof, or you got a teaching assistantship.

At least in my field, physics, lack of sufficient funding meant you didn't get students.

This whole business wasn't risk free. There were students who dropped out because their prof lost funding. In my view, the risk of not finishing at all is a bigger cost of graduate education than the pay scale.

Re:A glut of PhDs who can’t find academic jobs by sjg007 on Monday October 02, 2017 @09:54AM (#15383833)
Lol.. UCLA pays grad students 18k ish. Barely enough to survive. Yes not finishing is a real risk but it’s not true that students can generally survive on that without loans or savings. In other lower cost areas, they can. MIT, Columbia and other schools also have better financial packages / housing options.
Re:A glut of PhDs who can’t find academic jobs by analog31 on Monday October 02, 2017 @12:08PM (#15384983)
I remember even in the 1980s, there were schools where the pay packages didn't look all that competitive. It's possible that there are grad students who have family support.