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Re:Science saved me from pretending to love wine by secabeen on Sunday October 01, 2017 @03:43PM (#15379420)
Well, there is a lot of evidence that your perception of the quality of a wine actually effects how you taste it. If you can somehow convince yourself that a $3 bottle is actually $30 bottle (or more), you'll actually like it better!
Re:Science saved me from pretending to love wine by nightski on Sunday October 01, 2017 @03:54PM (#15379469)
It's just not true at the very low price points. I can drink 3 buck chuck anytime but I will know it is 3 buck chuck. Why? It's much harsher and lacks any depth in flavor.

Now give me a good wine in the $15-20 range and it can be incredibly satisfying. There are also plenty of bad expensive wines. But as you dip below the $10 mark I have yet to find a wine that isn't much harsher and harder to drink.

Re:Science saved me from pretending to love wine by robbrown451 on Sunday October 01, 2017 @04:03PM (#15379508)
3 buck chuck is not the same wine each time. It is whatever is surplus and they can get for a low price (and meets whatever their quality standards are), and sometimes it is the exact same wine that goes for $40 or more. They sell it off for cheap to reduce supply to maximize profits. I know a "wine snob" from Napa -- he actually was paid well to write about wine -- and he explained in detail, and mentioned that there were lots of "in the know" wine lovers who would go to Trader Joe's, buy a bottle, take it to their car and taste it to decide if they wanted to go back in and grab 20 bottles.
Re:Science saved me from pretending to love wine by nightski on Sunday October 01, 2017 @04:32PM (#15379641)
Interesting point, I did not know that and will have to try it (I don't live by a Trader Joe's so don't get to do this often). Thanks for the tip.
Re:Science saved me from pretending to love wine by robbrown451 on Sunday October 01, 2017 @08:19PM (#15380723)
I should mention that Wikipedia contradicts this, so.... I don't know.
Re:Science saved me from pretending to love wine by arbuge on Sunday October 01, 2017 @03:59PM (#15379493)
Any recommendations?
Re:Science saved me from pretending to love wine by staticautomatic on Sunday October 01, 2017 @05:08PM (#15379820)
In terms of value: For red, Portugal can't be beat. For white, Gascogne.
Re:Science saved me from pretending to love wine by xapata on Sunday October 01, 2017 @05:37PM (#15379960)
Tempranillo. It's light like a Pinot Noir, but without the cachet that the Sideways movie gave, so they tend to be cheaper.
Re:Science saved me from pretending to love wine by Avshalom on Sunday October 01, 2017 @06:25PM (#15380215)
I am super pissed in a not actually pissed at all sorts of way that my local liquor stores seem to be stocking entirely 100% tempranillo. I don't know if Spain just gave into the American obsession with varietals or what but personally I love a 70-90 trempranillo but it's very much a grape that benefits from a blend.