Re:Catalan referendum: 'Hundreds injured' in Catalan clashes
by soneil on Sunday October 01, 2017 @10:50AM
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There is a possible ‘win’ - if a clear & open referendum is held, and the results do not give independence a clear mandate.
Both the lose-lose paths - and the government’s current actions - seem to presume independence would win that mandate in a fair vote. This was never presumed until the government started acting like it was.
Re:Catalan referendum: 'Hundreds injured' in Catalan clashes
by blfr on Sunday October 01, 2017 @10:54AM
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This is a conditional and temporary win. It legitimizes the referendum path meaning Catalonia may try it again in a few years and other regions may attempt the same.
Re:Catalan referendum: 'Hundreds injured' in Catalan clashes
by tankenmate on Sunday October 01, 2017 @10:17AM
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Which shows the futility of trying to bend the will of a people peacefully committed to self determination.
First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win. -- Gandhi
So has the Spanish state moved to the third phase and enabled the fourth?
Re:Catalan referendum: 'Hundreds injured' in Catalan clashes
by AndrewDucker on Sunday October 01, 2017 @10:33AM
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If there are positive results then those people have chosen independence. So let them be independent. Anything else is despotism.
If they don't stop the referendum, positive results will be used to further the independence movement. If they do try to stop it, the videos we're watching will be used to further the independence movement.