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Re:The World According to Dan Brown by pfortuny on Saturday September 30, 2017 @04:52PM (#15374925)
Anyone who at this point in time writes about the Sagrada Familia CATHEDRAL should be banned from reporting or intervieweing.

Sorry but this only proves sloppiness.

Really.

Re:The World According to Dan Brown by ghaff on Saturday September 30, 2017 @05:05PM (#15374982)
Eh. Yes, it's a bit sloppy but although "cathedral" has a specific meaning it's also widely applied to large churches/abbeys/etc. that aren't associated with a bishop.
Re:The World According to Dan Brown by thatcherc on Saturday September 30, 2017 @05:03PM (#15374975)
Why? I think if you said the Sagrada Familia minor basilica [0] people who don't already know about it might not know what that means. I certainly wouldn't. According to Wikipedia [0], it's only not a cathedral because it's not the seat of a bishop.

[0] - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sagrada_Família

Re:The World According to Dan Brown by mcphage on Saturday September 30, 2017 @05:20PM (#15375043)
> According to Wikipedia [0], it's only not a cathedral because it's not the seat of a bishop.

On one hand, I do agree with your major point; calling it something other than a cathedral would be needlessly distracting. On the other, your comment amounts to "it’s only not a cathedral because it’s not a cathedral." Being the seat of a bishop is what a cathedral is.

Re:The World According to Dan Brown by coldtea on Saturday September 30, 2017 @07:22PM (#15375502)
>Being the seat of a bishop is what a cathedral is.

It's what cathedral's etymology is.

Words are defined by how they're used, not their etymology. Most people just use the word to mean any large church.

In fact, from dictionary.com: (2) (in nonepiscopal denominations) any of various important churches.

Also: Following the Protestant Reformation, the Christian church in several parts of Western Europe, such as Scotland, the Netherlands, certain Swiss Cantons and parts of Germany, adopted a Presbyterian polity that did away with bishops altogether. Where ancient cathedral buildings in these lands are still in use for congregational worship, they generally retain the title and dignity of "cathedral", maintaining and developing distinct cathedral functions, but void of hierarchical supremacy.

The term "cathedral" actually carries no implication as to the size or ornateness of the building. Nevertheless, most cathedrals are particularly impressive edifices. Thus, the term "cathedral" is often applied colloquially to any large and impressive church, regardless of whether it functions as a cathedral, such as the Crystal Cathedral in California or the Arctic Cathedral in Tromsø, Norway.

Re:The World According to Dan Brown by mcphage on Sunday October 01, 2017 @11:00PM (#15381442)
> It's what cathedral's etymology is. Words are defined by how they're used, not their etymology.

Sure, but we're talking a Catholic church here, and for Catholics, it's not just the etymology—it's the currently used definition as well.

Re:The World According to Dan Brown by greglindahl on Saturday September 30, 2017 @06:45PM (#15375377)
Let me guess, you live in an area where most people are catholic? I'd bet that most protestants have never heard of that particular definition. Of course the reporter should still have gotten it right, but it's easy to see why it's less obvious to some people than others.
Re:The World According to Dan Brown by coldtea on Saturday September 30, 2017 @07:23PM (#15375505)
Not only they might have not heard that, but they also use the word with another, looser, definition.
Re:The World According to Dan Brown by eradicatethots on Saturday September 30, 2017 @05:39PM (#15375108)
This seems totally irrelevant to the essay.