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Re:Wozniak and Copps: Ending net neutrality will end the Int... by oconnore on Saturday September 30, 2017 @02:19PM (#15374218)
No ISP is going to stop rural Montanaians from looking up Yelp reviews or visiting obscure ferret jousting fan pages. No one is even going to throttle video streaming, unless the ISP can demonstrate that the bandwidth consumed times some small per Gigabyte fee is worth far more than the postage and accounting costs (which for a handful of >0.1%-total-traffic-volume sites like Netflix, it will be).

Your prediction is like a Terry Gilliam movie (which I love!), but it's not actually going to happen that way.

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Re:Wozniak and Copps: Ending net neutrality will end the Int... by CamperBob2 on Saturday September 30, 2017 @02:27PM (#15374261)
You seriously need to learn about the history of the telecoms industry, going back to the days when they did exactly what you say they're not going to do.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Almon_Brown_Strowger

Nothing is happening now that hasn't happened before. People forget, is all.

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Re:Wozniak and Copps: Ending net neutrality will end the Int... by marak830 on Saturday September 30, 2017 @02:31PM (#15374288)
Actually, as to the throttling of video:

https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2017/07/veriz...

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Re:Wozniak and Copps: Ending net neutrality will end the Int... by oconnore on Saturday September 30, 2017 @02:49PM (#15374406)
Yes, they throttled Netflix and Youtube, two sites that account for ~30% and ~13% of total traffic volume, respectively. This is consistent with what I said.
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Re:Wozniak and Copps: Ending net neutrality will end the Int... by pdkl95 on Saturday September 30, 2017 @04:31PM (#15374849)
> ~30% and ~13% of total traffic volume

So what? That's traffic that the ISP's customers requested. That isn't Netflix using some shared resource. Customers are paying Verison to transfer data, and if 30% of that data is NetFlix, that's fine. Throttling denies the customer the service they are paying for.

Should FedEx or UPS throttle the number of Amazon packages per address they will deliver on time since Amazon represents a very large percentage of their business?

(If this isn't compatible with a business model based on oversubscription, that's the ISP's problem)

> No ISP is going to stop rural Montanaians from looking up Yelp reviews or visiting obscure ferret jousting fan pages

Of course not, because that isn't what Network Neutrality is about. Obscure ferret jousting fan pages are not competing with Verison. However, ISPs are* often involved in various aspects of "media" production and distribution, which is a conflict of interest.

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Re:Wozniak and Copps: Ending net neutrality will end the Int... by marak830 on Saturday September 30, 2017 @03:41PM (#15374671)
You are right, sorry not sure how I missed that part
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