Re:An essay on the phenomenology of DMT (2016)
by ssijak on Saturday September 30, 2017 @03:00PM
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There are alot of new studies regarding psychedelic done by groups like MAPS. I read almost all of them. Judging by this research and the benefits it is borderline criminal to have this substances as schedule 1.
Re:An essay on the phenomenology of DMT (2016)
by the_cat_kittles on Saturday September 30, 2017 @11:07PM
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if you can explain this, go ahead:
"The concrete hypothesis is that the network of subjective measurements of distances we experience on DMT (coming from the relationships between the phenomenal objects one experiences in that state) has an overall geometry that can accurately be described as hyperbolic (or hyperbolic-like). In other words, our inner 3D1T world grows larger than is possible to fit in an experiential field with 3D Euclidean phenomenal space (i.e. an experience of dimension R2.5 representing an R3 scene). This results in phenomenal spaces, surfaces, and objects acquiring a mean negative curvature. Of note is that even though DMT produces this effect in the most consistent and intense way, the effect is also present in states of consciousness induced by tryptamines and to a lesser extent in those induced by all other psychedelics."
Re:An essay on the phenomenology of DMT (2016)
by empath75 on Saturday September 30, 2017 @07:08AM
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Yeah this is pretty much standard ‘psychonaut’ theorizing about ‘what it all means, man’. We need less of this and more actual research. What dmt and lsd and similar drugs do to the mind is near miraculous, and if we want to understand consciousness, understanding how these drugs act to warp it so thoroughly seems like an important step.
Re:An essay on the phenomenology of DMT (2016)
by azeirah on Saturday September 30, 2017 @08:33AM
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So who's going to do that real research? I appreciate this psychonaut because he's at least trying, and seems fairly serious about his interest.
If you'd turn the perspective around, and instead of letting "actual researchers" perform the research, how'd you approach training interested psychonauts to perform useful research? Even if it's in a more informal manner?
Re:An essay on the phenomenology of DMT (2016)
by CuriouslyC on Saturday September 30, 2017 @08:39AM
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The problem with research into this sort of thing is that "increases in overal entropy of neural firing patterns and correlation between visuospatial and prefrontal firing." reduces the experience to the point of banality.
What we really need is more philosophers who are well versed in science to have these experiences, and to try and reinterpret the world from this alternate perspective.
Re:An essay on the phenomenology of DMT (2016)
by CuriouslyC on Monday October 02, 2017 @12:41PM
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I'm aware of whatever gets popular press or a write up in nautilus/aeon, and I browse /r/science daily. Please provide links to these interesting, under-shared studies.
Re:An essay on the phenomenology of DMT (2016)
by _nalply on Saturday September 30, 2017 @03:49AM
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DMT is a psychedelic drug. The essay doesn't explain DMT, perhaps because it's an illegal drug and they didn't want to be accused of promoting it, who knows. It's funny because they try to explain the psychedelic experience with mathematical constructs.
Read that.
Being supercilious isn't needed either. Lots of people on HN have degrees in math and I know for sure that some are fine with metaphor.
But what this guy is doing is not it.
If you'd turn the perspective around, and instead of letting "actual researchers" perform the research, how'd you approach training interested psychonauts to perform useful research? Even if it's in a more informal manner?
What we really need is more philosophers who are well versed in science to have these experiences, and to try and reinterpret the world from this alternate perspective.