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Re:Request for Education Startups by anonymous5133 on Monday September 25, 2017 @09:28PM (#15335480)
He is absolutely right and you can already see the tides shifting with the meteoric rise of "coding boot camps" and similar alternative educational models.
Re:Request for Education Startups by KGIII on Monday September 25, 2017 @09:45PM (#15335559)
The coding boot camps are closing en masse. I can't speak for the other alternative educational models, but there has been quite a bit of discussion around the boot camps closing.

Here is a recent article:

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/08/24/technology/coding-boot-ca...

Re:Request for Education Startups by austenallred on Monday September 25, 2017 @10:08PM (#15335641)
Nah, two of the 100 closed, the industry is fine. One is going to start up again in the same place with the same people and a different name. The other was purchased by Kaplan, which is as close as you can get to a death knell. Most are making grundles of money.

We’re not really a code bootcamp but we get thousands of applications per month and have employers incredibly hungry for our grads.

Re:Request for Education Startups by KGIII on Monday September 25, 2017 @11:00PM (#15335807)
They are two of the major ones with multiple facilities. That doesn't bode well for the industry.

Also, kudos on grundles. That is my new favorite word.

Re:Request for Education Startups by hydrox24 on Monday September 25, 2017 @11:18PM (#15335866)
Make sure you know the definition before you start using it casually as he has!

> Noun. grundle (plural grundles) (US, slang) The area between anus and scrotum in a male or between anus and vulva in a woman. [0]

[0]: https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/grundle

Re:Request for Education Startups by KGIII on Tuesday September 26, 2017 @12:55AM (#15336288)
Oh, I'm going to use it for everything - except what it really means.

"I will take the 8 oz steak, smashed potatoes with gravy, cauliflower with cheese, a side salad with house Italian dressing, and can you please make it grundle?"

"Thanks for stopping by. When you get home, tell your grundle I said was thinking about them."

I realize this isn't good HN material, but I couldn't resist.

Re:Request for Education Startups by foxylad on Tuesday September 26, 2017 @12:03AM (#15336040)
Intersting. In NZ and Australia, "grundies" is slang for (usually male) underwear.
Re:Request for Education Startups by subatomic on Tuesday September 26, 2017 @05:21AM (#15337272)
Different etymology though. Grundies <- Reg Grundy's <- Undies <- Underpants.
Re:Request for Education Startups by withdavidli on Tuesday September 26, 2017 @12:15AM (#15336108)
Never even heard of Iron Yard, being funded by Apollo (U of Pohoenix) makes me think it was nothing but a cash grab, likely same as the reviews of Berkeley Extension school’s bootcamp.

This is a business where poor level of service sinks a company fast. Reviews get online from the first few cohorts, if they’re bad the high caliber students who do their research will opt out of applying. These are the students likely to get jobs from career fair which the bootcamp makes their recruitment fee.

Re:Request for Education Startups by austenallred on Tuesday September 26, 2017 @12:40AM (#15336224)
Iron Yard was successful in one rural area, and decided to simultaneously open up 16 new spaces at once. Turns out that's like building 16 separate companies simultaneously.
Re:Request for Education Startups by austenallred on Tuesday September 26, 2017 @12:41AM (#15336231)
Lots of bootcamps with multiple facilities do very well, but that makes costs high, so if you make a few missteps it's game over.

Most are clearing millions in profit.

Re:Request for Education Startups by anonymous5133 on Monday September 25, 2017 @10:05PM (#15335627)
Didn't know. I see them advertising like crazy on my facebook feed lol
Re:Request for Education Startups by j45 on Monday September 25, 2017 @10:46PM (#15335763)
Coding bootcamps serve a very niche, often already well off (relative to the other 6 billion people) people.

The basics of education are not being delivered well enough to empower the other 9 out of every 10 children who don't even have access to the basics.

Re:Request for Education Startups by jfarmer on Tuesday September 26, 2017 @09:03AM (#15338220)
I co-founded Dev Bootcamp and disagree with most of his tweetstorm, for what that’s worth.