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Re:Like modern democracies, ancient Greek democracy had an a... by adrianratnapala on Saturday September 23, 2017 @03:35PM (#15321296)
I never thought I would say this: but is this thing available as video or audio? It seems to be the transcript of a lecture, and I would like to listen to it as I clean my house.

I found this thing: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PWZbQuqAQCI, but that is an interview in the wake of the lecture, not the lecture itself.

Re:Like modern democracies, ancient Greek democracy had an a... by def- on Saturday September 23, 2017 @04:01PM (#15321414)
Re:Like modern democracies, ancient Greek democracy had an a... by adrianratnapala on Saturday September 23, 2017 @04:08PM (#15321446)
Thanks.

And I gotta love America, where professorial lectures are accomapnied by the national anthem and a military flag ceremony!

Re:Like modern democracies, ancient Greek democracy had an a... by PhasmaFelis on Saturday September 23, 2017 @08:44PM (#15322609)
This is a Jefferson Lecture, "the highest honor the federal government confers for distinguished intellectual achievement in the humanities." It happens once a year.
Re:Like modern democracies, ancient Greek democracy had an a... by truxus on Saturday September 23, 2017 @05:43PM (#15321923)
Well you don't become the largest democracy in the world by baking pies...
Re:Like modern democracies, ancient Greek democracy had an a... by walterstucco on Sunday September 24, 2017 @07:04AM (#15324270)
It's not even the largest

By population EU is larger than US

It's not even the oldest, probably Iceland is, its parliament was formed in 930 by Vikings.

Re:Like modern democracies, ancient Greek democracy had an a... by madez on Sunday September 24, 2017 @03:29AM (#15323732)
How is large good in a democracy? Are the Netherlands worse because they are small?
Re:Like modern democracies, ancient Greek democracy had an a... by waqf on Sunday September 24, 2017 @01:51AM (#15323517)
*samosas
Re:Like modern democracies, ancient Greek democracy had an a... by c3534l on Saturday September 23, 2017 @07:42PM (#15322390)
Are you saying the famed American apple pie hasn't been a major contributor to America's success?!
Re:Like modern democracies, ancient Greek democracy had an a... by RcouF1uZ4gsC on Saturday September 23, 2017 @07:34PM (#15322360)
That is because America is not bound together by ethnicity or origin. We are not Americans because our ancestors have always lived in this place. What binds us together as Americans is the flag and patriotism. The flag and patriotism are supposed to transcend political boundaries. I for one think we as Americans need to emphasize what unites us and the flag and national anthem are two such things.
Re:Like modern democracies, ancient Greek democracy had an a... by nine_k on Saturday September 23, 2017 @10:08PM (#15322865)
I'd say Constitution and the ideals behind it.

A big part of the "American Dream" is that you don't have to be of particular ethnicity; you have to play by some rules, and you have a chance to make it big.

Re:Like modern democracies, ancient Greek democracy had an a... by KGIII on Saturday September 23, 2017 @10:54PM (#15323036)
For better or worse, the flag and anthem are representatives of the ideals and the Constitution. We are pretty nationalistic. That's not necessarily a bad thing, in and of itself.
Re:Like modern democracies, ancient Greek democracy had an a... by JamesLeonis on Sunday September 24, 2017 @02:35AM (#15323589)
You are correct. We are heavily inspired my Enlightenment philosophy, especially Hobbesian Social Contract theory. The Constitution is our Social Contract.
Re:Like modern democracies, ancient Greek democracy had an a... by throwamilesaway on Saturday September 23, 2017 @09:28PM (#15322754)
What you're describing as patriotism sounds like faith. Your flag is analogous to a cross or a star. Your national anthem sounds like prayers. Countries come across as religions.

I digress. It seems that democracy has been hacked many times over history (thanks OPs for all the links). Honestly, what would be a feasible alternative?

PS: Please do not bring up transparency; more of it won't solve it, we're being socially engineered at large scale.

Re:Like modern democracies, ancient Greek democracy had an a... by alansammarone on Saturday September 23, 2017 @08:20PM (#15322533)
Maybe uniting with humans in general is also a reasonable option.
Re:Like modern democracies, ancient Greek democracy had an a... by octaveguin on Saturday September 23, 2017 @04:22PM (#15321525)
That lecture has a 20 minute introduction.

A long meandering of thanking and praising various funding organizations and people. A great example of what's wrong with modern academia.

Re:Like modern democracies, ancient Greek democracy had an a... by katastic on Saturday September 23, 2017 @05:27PM (#15321831)
I see nothing terrible with people wanting to make a big deal out of handing you (tens?) of millions of dollars and getting thanked.

If this was Hollywood, instead of a ceremony, there'd be a "casting couch."

The only real issue is whether you can search for, and publish results that are the opposite of the hand that feeds. And as Google recently proved, that is a problem.

What seems like you're actually annoyed by, is having to wade through comments and content that were never intended for you. (Pro-tip: Skip ahead.) I mean, should we also get mad at PBS saying "this program was brought to you by the X, Y, Z, and Viewers Like You?"?

Is the issue one of "length" or "content?" Because as I've shown, PBS does the same content and nobody complains. And if it's length, yeah, it's annoying, but we're the most spoiled people in the history of the human race if we can't skip some video being beamed across the entire planet after previously being recorded on trillions of dollars of research, billions of dollars of industry, and tens of thousands of smart people all working together in harmony to bring us a video... that could have been clipped a little in the beginning.

Re:Like modern democracies, ancient Greek democracy had an a... by bllguo on Saturday September 23, 2017 @06:06PM (#15322034)
Academics would love it if they didn't have to do that. Society's undervaluation of academic research has led to this situation.
Re:Like modern democracies, ancient Greek democracy had an a... by PhasmaFelis on Saturday September 23, 2017 @08:45PM (#15322615)
This is a Jefferson Lecture, "the highest honor the federal government confers for distinguished intellectual achievement in the humanities." It happens once a year.
Re:Like modern democracies, ancient Greek democracy had an a... by Spooky23 on Saturday September 23, 2017 @05:05PM (#15321721)
That’s nothing.

When I was an intern acting as an AV monkey we ran into all sorts of crazy stuff.

Sucking up to people who give you money is an art form present in all forms of business.

Re:Like modern democracies, ancient Greek democracy had an a... by maxxxxx on Saturday September 23, 2017 @06:05PM (#15322030)
They should just put up sponsor banners like sports do. I almost reflexively fast forward 10 minutes now when I watch a lecture because it seems they always feel that need to give a long intro speech.
Re:Like modern democracies, ancient Greek democracy had an a... by KGIII on Saturday September 23, 2017 @10:58PM (#15323051)
They could adorn their jackets with sponsor logos and change hats frequently. It'd be like automobile racing!

It might actually get more attention that way. The scientist could show up and do doughnuts in the parking lot, squirt champagne on the crowd, and get a trophy. I'd watch the hell out of that.

Re:Like modern democracies, ancient Greek democracy had an a... by keeler on Saturday September 23, 2017 @07:40PM (#15322384)
Really?
Re:Like modern democracies, ancient Greek democracy had an a... by ouid on Saturday September 23, 2017 @03:36PM (#15321304)
text to speech!! ^^