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Re:New antibody attacks 99% of HIV strains by tertius on Saturday September 23, 2017 @09:47AM (#15319696)
> Almost got it right: Drugs elsewhere are cheaper and largely subsidized by USA citizens.

* Correction, by U.S. government (through law).

> Those drugs cost a fortune to make and the companies make their money in USA.

Yes R&D is expensive, but pharma is extremely profitable. Here in the U.S. and abroad.

Re:New antibody attacks 99% of HIV strains by tryingagainbro on Saturday September 23, 2017 @01:06PM (#15320634)
The difference in pricing is STAGGERING. http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/New-Hepatitis-C-dru...

The blockbuster hepatitis C drug will cost about $900 (around Rs 54,000) in India for a 12-week course of treatment. That would be a fraction of the $84,000 (over Rs 50 lakh) price tag for the same treatment in US.

I'm sure that they wouldn't be that profitable if USA paid $900 for that drug, especially the first few years.

https://www.nytimes.com/2015/02/04/business/sales-of-sovaldi... 140,000 patients in USA and going to 250,000

Re:New antibody attacks 99% of HIV strains by tertius on Saturday September 23, 2017 @03:11PM (#15321157)
Drugs are cheapest in India. Let's normalize. I.e. far end of the pricing bell curve.

But the answer is still, yes, there is profitability. Just not as much as with the hyper inflated prices in the US.

In short: Does the extreme cost for drugs in the US cause groundbreaking research to benefit the whole world?

No, same results could be had with way less profit. Money to fund moonshot research is still important though.

Re:New antibody attacks 99% of HIV strains by pkaye on Sunday September 24, 2017 @12:18AM (#15323277)
Given the lower labor costs and people consider drugs to be so profitable, I don't know why other countries don't do as much research and drug development. Just a few countries carry the lion share of this effort.
Re:New antibody attacks 99% of HIV strains by refurb on Sunday September 24, 2017 @12:34AM (#15323324)
That would be my response. If someone else can improve R&D and lower the cost of drugs, they are more than welcome to. Interestingly, I haven't seen any takers.
Re:New antibody attacks 99% of HIV strains by tertius on Sunday September 24, 2017 @03:38PM (#15326137)
This is constantly done... Find some new discoveries in basic science. Get finding. Develop a drug. Test and redevelop. Market. Profit.
Re:New antibody attacks 99% of HIV strains by refurb on Monday September 25, 2017 @12:45AM (#15328127)
Based on lowering the costs of R&D? I've yet to see it.
Re:New antibody attacks 99% of HIV strains by tertius on Thursday September 28, 2017 @09:25AM (#15356913)
Yes, many people bring their work out of academia and have much lower cost of R&D because they don't have to pay for any of the pre-work.

Reagents are getting cheaper and better as well.

Yesteryears low hanging fruit costs the same as today's low hanging fruit. They are harder to solve though.

And no, I'm not saying everyone single biotech startup is like this or every single researcher does this. And yes many fail, but that's the cost of doing business and it's something that makes things progress.

Re:New antibody attacks 99% of HIV strains by tertius on Sunday September 24, 2017 @12:26PM (#15325330)
Drug development is expensive.
Re:New antibody attacks 99% of HIV strains by refurb on Sunday September 24, 2017 @12:32AM (#15323321)
pharma is extremely profitable

That's survivorship bias. Yes, the successful pharma companies are quite profitable, but there are 10 failed companies for every successful one.

I remember reading a paper that said the overall returns for the industry are either single digit or negative.

Re:New antibody attacks 99% of HIV strains by tertius on Sunday September 24, 2017 @03:39PM (#15326147)
This is business in general.

The big ones buy up the small generic producers and single new drug companies and get slightly bigger.

The ones who can't pass trials fail. That's business, especially in R&D.