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Re:How I got to 200 productive hours a month by beagle3 on Friday September 22, 2017 @04:57AM (#15310400)
Not really. Leaving a phone at home and taking a notebook or book with you while sitting outside is not like "stop staying awake". It will, in fact, get you off the Internet and is unlikely to result in withdrawal symptoms for most people.

Unlike "stop staying awake" which is not actionable.

A book might not be a good suggestion for everyone, and finding the right "off internet thinking environment" is not easy for some, but it's doable for most.

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Re:How I got to 200 productive hours a month by eeZah7Ux on Friday September 22, 2017 @08:18AM (#15311455)
> Unlike "stop staying awake" which is not actionable.

That's the problem: you think "stop staying awake" is not actionable, while "leave your phone at home" is actionable for a person with ADHD.

Again, this is not different than saying "just be happy" to a depressed person. To that person, in that moment, "stop wasting time on the internet" is not actionable just as much, otherwise it would not be a problem in the first place.

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Re:How I got to 200 productive hours a month by lkozma on Friday September 22, 2017 @10:05AM (#15312246)
Going with your examples, I think "leave your phone at home" is more actionable than "stop wasting time on the internet", and both are vastly more actionable than "stop staying awake" and "just be happy".
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Re:How I got to 200 productive hours a month by kazagistar on Friday September 22, 2017 @11:11AM (#15312867)
Right, and his point is that actionability of advice depends on brain configuration. I have no problem lifting my mood, or falling asleep. So those actually seem more actionable to me. However, I have empathy for people whose brains work differently, who struggle with different things, and who might need intense therapy and medication just to stay afloat at these kinds of mental tasks.
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Re:How I got to 200 productive hours a month by OJFord on Friday September 22, 2017 @06:48PM (#15316612)
> you think "stop staying awake" is not actionable, while "leave your phone at home" is actionable for a person with ADHD.

I'm not an insomniac; nor do I have ADHD, as far I know.

I assure you that I cannot action an instruction to 'stop staying awake'. I certainly can 'leave [my] phone at home', and frequently do.

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