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Re:Mark Zuckerberg's Political Awakening by 0xcde4c3db on Thursday September 21, 2017 @09:40AM (#15303230)
> Restructuring of Facebook stock trough the Chan Zuckerberg Initiative. In the SEC filing it says that he can take a leave of absence from Facebook and still retain voting control of the company if he goes to work for the government.

It can't possibly be kosher for him to be President with this arrangement, can it? If Carter had to divest his peanut farm, why would we let a President retain a massive interest in the biggest media/marketing/surveillance platform in the country? It would make Berlusconi look like an amateur.

Re:Mark Zuckerberg's Political Awakening by ashark on Thursday September 21, 2017 @10:21AM (#15303668)
Just a year ago I'd have thought it'd obviously land him in hot water, and probably get him impeached in short order if he refused to divest.

I no longer think that. Even massive, wholly overt corruption is apparently fine now. Along with a bunch of other stuff. There are no rules now as long as you can get elected, you're useful to one party or the other, and that party retains enough seats to block impeachment.

Berlusconi is precisely the kind of person who's in power now, and it's taking months of slow, grinding work to maybe, maybe catch him on something bad enough he can't ignore it, while he's plainly profiting from the office and hasn't attempted to avoid actual conflicts of interest, let alone the appearance of them, and that's not even the thing we're trying to throw him out over.

At the highest levels of American power, you can now openly be as corrupt as Berlusconi and... no one cares enough to do anything about it.

So yes, Zuck totally can. Which makes the prospect of his presidency all the more worrisome.

Re:Mark Zuckerberg's Political Awakening by pjc50 on Thursday September 21, 2017 @09:45AM (#15303285)
Republicans seem quite content with Trump billing the secret service to stay in his own hotels while protecting him, so I think that's your answer.
Re:Mark Zuckerberg's Political Awakening by creaghpatr on Thursday September 21, 2017 @09:55AM (#15303386)
Yeah and Zuckerberg pays himself every time he uses Facebook, so are we going to make him delete his account?

If he were to win I think he would be pressured to structure some kind of trust that prevents him from leveraging Facebook's political power in conjunction with the government.

Re:Mark Zuckerberg's Political Awakening by croon on Thursday September 21, 2017 @10:48AM (#15303952)
> Yeah and Zuckerberg pays himself every time he uses Facebook, so are we going to make him delete his account?

> If he were to win I think he would be pressured to structure some kind of trust that prevents him from leveraging Facebook's political power in conjunction with the government.

That's the point, isn't it? It's happening right now without consequence, so why should it be different then?

Re:Mark Zuckerberg's Political Awakening by Overtonwindow on Thursday September 21, 2017 @10:06AM (#15303512)
But in truth there is absolutely no way Facebook is not going to become his private political action committee. There's no way to separate the two.
Re:Mark Zuckerberg's Political Awakening by creaghpatr on Thursday September 21, 2017 @10:17AM (#15303638)
He already partners with organizations like WaPo and Politifact to be 'fact-checkers', paying them large contracts I assume.

Once these groups determine something to be 'fake news' they are set up to censor as they see fit. Pretty smart if it wasn't so evil.

Re:Mark Zuckerberg's Political Awakening by tomschlick on Thursday September 21, 2017 @12:14PM (#15304938)
IIRC, there is a law/policy that the Secret Service has to pay the going rate for any accommodations or services they consume from businesses (which Trump's properties are).
Re:Mark Zuckerberg's Political Awakening by talmand on Thursday September 21, 2017 @09:58AM (#15303419)
That's actually normal and has been in place for quite some time now.
Re:Mark Zuckerberg's Political Awakening by pjc50 on Thursday September 21, 2017 @10:48AM (#15303949)
What's normal, the president owning a hotel chain? Or taking so much holiday it breaks the secret service budget? http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2017/08/the-trumps-trav...
Re:Mark Zuckerberg's Political Awakening by talmand on Thursday September 21, 2017 @02:37PM (#15306238)
It is normal for a President to own a hotel chain. I didn't realize he's breaking some long-standing rule with that. Just because no previous President happened to own a hotel chain doesn't make it abnormal.

The holiday thing is something to complain over.

But...

Since the original statement of the Secret Service paying for property they make use of has absolutely nothing to do with either of your questions, I believe you are a bit misguided.

It is completely normal for the Secret Service to pay for usage of property and/or services during their duty. It has been in place for some time and payments have been made to numerous persons of both parties for years.

Re:Mark Zuckerberg's Political Awakening by sli on Thursday September 21, 2017 @04:54PM (#15307257)
The complaint is not about the Secret Service paying for what they use. Of course they have to pay to stay in a hotel room.

The complaint is that money is going into Trump's bank account. It directly benefits him financially to go on vacations as often as possible when he stays at his own resorts, because he makes a cut off the tax dollars used to pay for his vacations.

Re:Mark Zuckerberg's Political Awakening by talmand on Friday September 22, 2017 @01:12PM (#15313963)
Again, this is a long-standing protocol that many people over the years have benefited from within both parties. It is nothing new. People complaining about it today should be willing to condemn every single one of those that benefited from it. Of which, I never hear anyone doing that.
Re:Mark Zuckerberg's Political Awakening by mbrock on Thursday September 21, 2017 @09:42AM (#15303248)
Trump is kind of paving the way for this type of corporativism, no?
Re:Mark Zuckerberg's Political Awakening by talmand on Thursday September 21, 2017 @09:58AM (#15303426)
No.
Re:Mark Zuckerberg's Political Awakening by croon on Thursday September 21, 2017 @11:20AM (#15304314)
Are you saying you disagree with the notion that it SHOULD be normalized, or are you disagreeing with the fact that he is doing it?
Re:Mark Zuckerberg's Political Awakening by talmand on Thursday September 21, 2017 @02:32PM (#15306204)
I'm disagreeing that he's doing it.

Although, I wouldn't mind it being explained to me how he is.

Re:Mark Zuckerberg's Political Awakening by Chardok on Thursday September 21, 2017 @09:48AM (#15303312)
That is by far the biggest red flag for his political aspirations. I cannot even fathom the conflicts of interest, the potential to misuse/abuse Facebooks front page rankings, and the massive data and insight he would have access to.
Re:Mark Zuckerberg's Political Awakening by jsolson on Thursday September 21, 2017 @09:58AM (#15303430)
The President and Vice President are exempted from conflict of interest laws. The reason for this is interesting -- the Constitution sets out the requirements for being president, so the concern was that the laws would be challenged as unconstitutional and invalidated entirely if they applied to POTUS.

Of course, at the time presidents were in the habit of divesting themselves of their conflicts.