Sure. Just a coincidence that kind of speech 'we just want to vote', 'I'm going to say no but want to vote in this illegal referendum', I only hear it from secessionists.

Sure, you know better my political views than me.

Listen, there is more than the present status quo or independence, there a people that want less descentralization, there is people that want a federal state and there is people that wants a confederal state.

And a fucking lot of people support that others can decide want they want to be and, at the same time, doesn't agree whit their views.

I think people like you, that see this situation in balck and white and think that anyone that doesn't see like you is an independentist are part of the problem, no of the solution.

There's no better way to change his vote to a definite "yes" than by refusing to allow him to voice his opinion.

If Madrid listened half as well as it sneered, I suspect they'd have better relations with all their immediate neighbors.

Is it also sneering when money pours from central state?

https://www.invertia.com/es/-/-que-autonomias-deben-mas-dine...

Man, the obsession with 'Madrid'! I think all Spaniards have a voice in this.

If your wife wants to divorce you, do you think she should require your permission first?

When it is said Madrid, like when it is said Paris, Washington or London in a political context, what is referenced is the federal/central government